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    Off with their heads I say!

    It’s official: the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries has found that Aaron and Melissa Klein, the Christian bakers who gained national attention after they refused to make a wedding cake for a lesbian couple in 2013, were guilty of discrimination — and could be forced to pay up to $150,000 in damages.

    “A Gresham bakery unlawfully discriminated against a same-sex couple by denying them full and equal access to a place of public accommodations,” read a statement released by the agency on Monday.
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...iscrimination/

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    It's hilarious how liberals are literally pro-slavery these days. I guess this is what it means to live in interesting times.
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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    • #3
      A $150,000 fine for refusing to make a cake?
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        As the token liberal allow me to say I disapprove of the magnitude of the fine. That's just silly. Maybe an appropriate judgement would be the price of the cake they refused to make.

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        • #5
          This is great news. Just as the KKK needed to be actively rooted out after slavery was abolished, there are still those today who need to be stopped from persecuting gay people despite the fact that we now have supposed 'equality'. I hope case serves as a well-publicized example that inspires people not to discriminate against gay people

          I note the fine is yet to be decided, and the specified amount is simply a theoretical maximum. US fines seem to be always waaaaaay over the top though. But I imagine they'll be no end of Christian groups fundraising to help them pay the fine. Bizarrely a gay-Christian group has already given them money.

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          • #6
            Seems to me they are going overboard to make an example of this particular baker, in the hopes of heading off more such instances. I suspect if the sentence is appealed, it will be reduced to sensible magnitude. I think any more than, say, a speeding ticket is excessive.

            A $150,000 fine for refusing to make a cake?
            The offense is illegal discrimination. In this particular case, it was a baker who discriminated.

            It's hilarious how liberals are literally pro-slavery these days.
            Paying a fine for breaking the law is hardly "slavery", but the fine itself is unreasonable.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              This is great news. Just as the KKK needed to be actively rooted out after slavery was abolished, there are still those today who need to be stopped from persecuting gay people despite the fact that we now have supposed 'equality'. I hope case serves as a well-publicized example that inspires people not to discriminate against gay people
              And I'm sure the Oregon BLI is well aware that they are ensuring that this bakery will be seeing a steady supply of gay customers. With lawyers in tow.

              I note the fine is yet to be decided, and the specified amount is simply a theoretical maximum.
              Ah, I didn't notice that. I suggested the equivalent of a speeding ticket.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by phank View Post
                Paying a fine for breaking the law is hardly "slavery", but the fine itself is unreasonable.
                Forcing someone to do work is slavery. If you don't think fines constitute force then you should have no problem with poll taxes for blacks. Or atheists. After all there is no force involved, right?
                "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  A $150,000 fine for refusing to make a cake?
                  And who in their right mind would want a cake from someone who does not like you and you're forcing them to make it? Jesse Jackson once boasted in an interview published in Life magazine back in 1969 how he would spit in the food of white customers he didn't like when he worked as a waiter[1]. I imagine that someone who made the food could do worse.









                  1. Once he told of his days as a waiter at the Jack Tar Hotel in his home town of Greenville, S.C. Just before leaving the kitchen he would spit into the food of white patrons he hated and then smilingly serve it to them. He did this, he said, “because it gave me psychological gratification.”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                    Forcing someone to do work is slavery. If you don't think fines constitute force then you should have no problem with poll taxes for blacks. Or atheists. After all there is no force involved, right?
                    Nobody is being "forced to do work". If you go to a baker and buy a cake, are you "forcing" the baker to work for you?

                    The fines are for breaking the law, not for providing products for customers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      And who in their right mind would want a cake from someone who does not like you and you're forcing them to make it?
                      And who in their right mind would sit at a lunch counter to be served lunch, knowing the owner doesn't like you? Golly, some people NEVER learn from history.

                      Jesse Jackson once boasted in an interview published in Life magazine back in 1969 how he would spit in the food of white customers he didn't like when he worked as a waiter. I imagine that someone who made the food could do worse.
                      Jesse Jackson can be an idiot, but his resentment isn't hard to understand.









                      1. Once he told of his days as a waiter at the Jack Tar Hotel in his home town of Greenville, S.C. Just before leaving the kitchen he would spit into the food of white patrons he hated and then smilingly serve it to them. He did this, he said, “because it gave me psychological gratification.”[/QUOTE]

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by phank View Post
                        Nobody is being "forced to do work". If you go to a baker and buy a cake, are you "forcing" the baker to work for you?

                        The fines are for breaking the law, not for providing products for customers.
                        You're missing the point. If the law forces you to do something against your will then it is effectively slavery.
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          And who in their right mind would want a cake from someone who does not like you and you're forcing them to make it? Jesse Jackson once boasted in an interview published in Life magazine back in 1969 how he would spit in the food of white customers he didn't like when he worked as a waiter[1]. I imagine that someone who made the food could do worse.
                          Jesse Jackson also said that if he's walking down a street late at night and hears footsteps behind him, he's relieved when it turns out to be a white man.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by phank View Post
                            Nobody is being "forced to do work". If you go to a baker and buy a cake, are you "forcing" the baker to work for you?

                            The fines are for breaking the law, not for providing products for customers.
                            The fines are for breaking a law that demands you to do work you don't want to do. That's what the specific law is, slavery veiled in progressive BS.
                            "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                            There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              Jesse Jackson also said that if he's walking down a street late at night and hears footsteps behind him, he's relieved when it turns out to be a white man.
                              Statistically, he's surely being reasonable here.

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