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  • Woman receives medal for reporting sexism

    http://www.armytimes.com/story/milit...ling/21103073/

    First Sgt. Katrina Moerk said she never sought recognition for correcting soldiers' unethical behavior online, but received it anyway, and from high places.

    Lt. Gen. James McConville presented Moerk an Army Medal of Commendation at a Dec. 15 ceremony at the Pentagon and the senior noncommissioned officer received in-person praise from Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel.

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    Nearly a year ago, Moerk clicked on a link from a popular Facebook page to watch a video lampooning barracks life. In one scene, soldiers escorted a new recruit past a female soldier's room and the tour guide described the woman as a "piece of meat" who sleeps with all the male soldiers. He said her name is "Suzy Rottencrotch."

    "I was absolutely appalled and disgusted. This is what would be portrayed to the Army, to prospects, to future soldiers, to other nations," Moerk said in an official Army video titled "Confronting Unethical Conduct on Social Media."
    Don't join the military.
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    So this kind of stuff shouldn't be reported?
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    • #3
      The army guys call each other worse things.

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      • #4
        That doesn't make it right. I'd also say the case of women is different because of the prevalence of sexual assault in the military and the difficulty in getting cases prosecuted (this has been verified by one woman I know in the Army). It's a real threat; not just trash talk.

        Of course, DE thinks I'm an idiotic apostate liberal so I know my opinions are going to be dismissed as mad ravings, but I stand by what I say.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          That doesn't make it right. I'd also say the case of women is different because of the prevalence of sexual assault in the military and the difficulty in getting cases prosecuted (this has been verified by one woman I know in the Army). It's a real threat; not just trash talk.

          Of course, DE thinks I'm an idiotic apostate liberal so I know my opinions are going to be dismissed as mad ravings, but I stand by what I say.
          I grew up as an army brat, and was around men and women in the army a good portion of my life. Most of the army women were as gruff and raunchy as the men were. The Army is not a tea-party.

          Now, I don't believe anyone should experience direct sexual assault or harassment, but getting upset over a parody video with raunchy overtones is just a bit too much PC.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            So this kind of stuff shouldn't be reported?
            Should we pretend that Army life is all PC?

            That this would earn a Commendation Medal cheapens such medals beyond belief.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              Should we pretend that Army life is all PC?

              That this would earn a Commendation Medal cheapens such medals beyond belief.
              I just don't understand why this is so outrageous that this would justify not joining the military.

              And if I get called overly PC for saying that women shouldn't be called sluts named Suzy Rottencrotch, then so be it.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                That doesn't make it right.
                But reporting it hardly makes it medal worthy.

                I'm always still in trouble again

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                  I just don't understand why this is so outrageous that this would justify not joining the military.

                  And if I get called overly PC for saying that women shouldn't be called sluts named Suzy Rottencrotch, then so be it.
                  But she wasn't called that. The video had nothing to do with her. She watched a parody video and decided to report it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    And if I get called overly PC for saying that women shouldn't be called sluts named Suzy Rottencrotch, then so be it.
                    If women are so delicate that they can't handle the same salty language that men call each other, then maybe they shouldn't be in the military.

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                    • #11
                      I think it's worthy of reporting because of the broader concern of a culture in many pockets of the military where the decent treatment of women is not the norm. The culture needs to be tackled if we eventually do want the rate of sex assaults to go down. All the justifications I'm seeing seem like "well, it's always been that way"... and given that I'm presenting concrete reasons why it should be tackled, past cultural precedent doesn't fly IMO.
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                        That doesn't make it right. I'd also say the case of women is different because of the prevalence of sexual assault in the military and the difficulty in getting cases prosecuted (this has been verified by one woman I know in the Army). It's a real threat; not just trash talk.
                        What does sex assault have to do with anything (and no, you shouldn't get a medal for reporting sexual assault either)? She reported a dumb video she found offensive, but the video did not have anything to do with sexual assault, it was just slut shaming, which used to be a Christian staple until liberals said to stop doing it at which point you fell in line without question. Then the military gave her a medal for it, which is the most absurd part and the main reason why I posted this.

                        Of course, DE thinks I'm an idiotic apostate liberal
                        Well, yeah.

                        so I know my opinions are going to be dismissed as mad ravings
                        Nah, you're ok.
                        "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                        There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                          I think it's worthy of reporting because of the broader concern of a culture in many pockets of the military where the decent treatment of women is not the norm.
                          And the decent treatment of men is not the norm anywhere in the military. If women want equality they have to deal with the crappy parts too.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Meta Knight View Post
                            And the decent treatment of men is not the norm anywhere in the military. If women want equality they have to deal with the crappy parts too.
                            Let's not pretend the cases are the same. Men aren't being raped at the same rate as women (see http://time.com/3618348/pentagon-sex...ault-military/ for exact statistics). Frankly, what you're saying implies women should just have to deal with the issue of rape ("the crappy part"), and that's reprehensible.
                            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                              Let's not pretend the cases are the same. Men aren't being raped at the same rate as women (see http://time.com/3618348/pentagon-sex...ault-military/ for exact statistics). Frankly, what you're saying implies women should just have to deal with the issue of rape ("the crappy part"), and that's reprehensible.
                              How did you get from a woman reporting a raunchy parody video she found online to rape? Strawman much?

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