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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI'm not sure that it's true but I've heard that the reason that the British wore red is so that it would be harder for the enemy to see if they were wounded.
The adoption and continuing use of red by most British/English soldiers after the Restoration (1660) was the result of circumstances rather than policy, including the relative cheapness of red dyes.[9] Red was by no means universal at first, with grey and blue coats also being worn.[3]:16 There is no known basis for the myth that red coats were favoured because they did not show blood stains. Blood does in fact show on red clothing as a black stain.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThey couldn't tell by the falling down and screaming?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThey couldn't tell by the falling down and screaming?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe armies also used to wear bright colors and just stand in a line and shoot at each other. I am sure the British didn't like the American Revolutionary tactics of hiding in the woods behind cover and shooting them dead.
a) the boere were all hunters.
b) the British were wearing red tunics with a big white X on it....in brown veld grass.Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe armies also used to wear bright colors and just stand in a line and shoot at each other. I am sure the British didn't like the American Revolutionary tactics of hiding in the woods behind cover and shooting them dead.Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 01-27-2015, 06:19 PM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostThat was mainly because of the inaccurate nature of a smooth bore musket (remember, history tells us Washington ran out between the lines in at least two battles, to rally his men, during a hail of gunfire and didn't get hit) and its low firing rate (around 3 rounds per minute). Kind of meaning that lining your army up, in close ranks, will help to maximize your fire. Trying this game, with a rifled barrel and a gun that can fire at a far faster rate, isn't such a great idea. That is why the US Civil War ended up with 700,000 killed and why WWI ended up with millions killed. Running at an army with smooth bore muskets and smooth bore cannon is dangerous and will get people killed, but some will still make it. Running at an army armed with rifles, machine guns, and highly accurate artillery, is a suicide mission.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt took the Brits seemingly forever to learn that you don't line your men up side-by-side and advance them in a slow march across the battlefield in the teeth of machine gun fire during WWI.Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 01-27-2015, 08:53 PM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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It is one thing when celebutards spout off seeking to keep the spotlight pointed in their direction but when a MNBC reporter does it you get some insight as to why their viewership has been reduced to essentially their employees who are forced to watch it in the company break room. On "Morning Joe," correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin claimed that Chris Kyle was merely a "racist" who went out on a "killing spree.":
"Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment."
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is one thing when celebutards spout off seeking to keep the spotlight pointed in their direction but when a MNBC reporter does it you get some insight as to why their viewership has been reduced to essentially their employees who are forced to watch it in the company break room. On "Morning Joe," correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin claimed that Chris Kyle was merely a "racist" who went out on a "killing spree.":
"Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment.""The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is one thing when celebutards spout off seeking to keep the spotlight pointed in their direction but when a MNBC reporter does it you get some insight as to why their viewership has been reduced to essentially their employees who are forced to watch it in the company break room. On "Morning Joe," correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin claimed that Chris Kyle was merely a "racist" who went out on a "killing spree.":
"Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment."
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is one thing when celebutards spout off seeking to keep the spotlight pointed in their direction but when a MNBC reporter does it you get some insight as to why their viewership has been reduced to essentially their employees who are forced to watch it in the company break room. On "Morning Joe," correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin claimed that Chris Kyle was merely a "racist" who went out on a "killing spree.":
"Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment."Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Raphael View PostYup, and in the Anglo-Boer war (called the South African war here in NZ) the British could not understand why the boere were such good shots (boere is Afrikaans for farmers).
a) the boere were all hunters.
b) the British were wearing red tunics with a big white X on it....in brown veld grass.
The other half of the story is the Coriolis effect, which roughly summarises as, if you fire at a target North or South of you, you are firing at something which is at a different distance from the Earth's axis than you are, hence moving faster or slower than you are, so the path of your bullet as traced on the ground will be a curve to left or right depending on which hemisphere you're in; this causes loss of accuracy.
The third half of the story is that for a rifle bullet spinning in the appropriate direction for its hemisphere, the deflections caused by spin and Coriolis effect will mostly cancel out, ensuring high accuracy; or if the spin is inappropriate, the deflections will add, and ensuring reduced accuracy. Guess whose rifles imparted the appropriate spin for the Southern hemisphere, and whose didn't.
But few soldiers are sharpshooters, so I expect a) and b) predominated.
Here's one British soldier who is a sharpshooter, and very good at it -- scroll down to 'Deadlier than the plague'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-31087107
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This is a decent take on the more theological aspects of the controversy:
http://www.reformation21.org/blog/20...aise-snipe.php"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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