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Ethnic Cleansing by Christians in CAR
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So this is probably one of those extremist warlord cult movements like the Lord’s Resistance Army then, eh?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI don't think that was Christy's intention.
She was opening the topic up for conversation, "So what do you think of this".
Maybe people are just a bit defensive about this topic now because of the lash out against the Muslim community for the Charlie Hebdo thing. Its something I've been aware of for awhile, and it's incredibly sad. As a Christian with limited resources and considerably less influence, there doesn't seem to be anything that I, as an individual, can do about it. As a body, its something that we in the West should probably be talking about so that our influential leaders can speak against it (if they aren't already).
(And, yes, I'm aware that there are SOME Muslims speaking out about the atrocities committed in the name of Islam)
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostDidn't know that - just responding to this apparent attempt (and I may be wrong) to show that "Christians" are promulgating this "ethnic cleansing".
Maybe people are just a bit defensive about this topic now because of the lash out against the Muslim community for the Charlie Hebdo thing. Its something I've been aware of for awhile, and it's incredibly sad. As a Christian with limited resources and considerably less influence, there doesn't seem to be anything that I, as an individual, can do about it. As a body, its something that we in the West should probably be talking about so that our influential leaders can speak against it (if they aren't already).
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostTo be fair Christy only asked for comments and did not make any statement in support of the video.
I'm still trying to see where we can legitimately call the anti-balaka (which, by the way, means anti-machette) movement "Christian", as indicated in the Title of the thread.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post(You know Christy isn't a skeptic, and that she has a track record of being an outspokenly pro-life Christian, right?)
As for whether these are Christians acting in the name of God, or from a religious fervor....
We have an ongoing war here, not a "Christian" movement.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe same thing could probably be said of many Christians living outside of Africa. OTOH, in Africa the rate of those converting to Christianity is probably higher than anywhere else and considering the persecution in many of these areas it is doubtful that these converts were doing it only because it's what all the cool kids are doing.
There are atrocities being committed by both sides in the region as the conflict is quite bloody
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostMy understanding is that in some African countries, "Christian" is more of a cultural than a religious term and there are plenty of nominal believers. I can't help but wonder if that's the case here.
There are atrocities being committed by both sides in the region as the conflict is quite bloodyLast edited by rogue06; 01-16-2015, 11:24 AM.
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(You know Christy isn't a skeptic, and that she has a track record of being an outspokenly pro-life Christian, right?)
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Several things, besides the fact that he's incredibly biased....
He is obviously trying to make this a shining example of a "modern day crisis" in which Christians are "doing violence against non Christians".
The first problem with that is that he's trying to portray this as the counter to Muslims 'acting badly' in the name of Allah... there is no evidence, or even suggestion, that these "Christians" are doing this as part of their belief, or in the name of the Christian God. They are simply a group defined as "Christians", whatever that entails.
He says "right wingers" ask for "modern examples of Christians doing violence against non Christians". No, that's NOT what us "right wingers" are asking --- it's "where are the modern examples of Christians killing in the name of God or Christ, as part of their religion".
He says "We see… we KNOW that there is this disproportionate focus on Muslims committing… terror and uh…uh.. religion and ethnicity based violence but this is a very specific example where this Christian group is now confirmed to have been involved in the ethnic cleansing of Muslims…"
Again, no evidence whatsoever that they are waging war in the name of God.
Finally, he claims this is "one of the TOP humanitarian crisis as determined by the United Nations…” No evidence of that claim whatsoever.
So, Christy, is this the BEST example you can find of Christians murdering, maiming, raping and pillaging in the name of God?
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From what I recall, it is in retaliation for Muslim violence against Christians a year or two ago - not that retaliation makes it excusable.
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My understanding is that in some African countries, "Christian" is more of a cultural than a religious term and there are plenty of nominal believers. I can't help but wonder if that's the case here.
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Finally, some Africans I feel okay about sending money and guns to!
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