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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    How is claiming the government is behind all sorts of conspiracies and is bad, yet wanting in on government subsidies when it means money in your pocket, in any way anarchy? It is just pure hypocrisy on your part TS.
    So you think I should live in this world as I want it to be, rather than live in it as I find it?

    I think it is ok to take advantage of this or that government program as long as 1) I continue to show my disapproval of people putting faith in our governments rather than God and 2) try to be on net a giver (not be a taker overall). Why should I not try to get some return for the taxes that I incur?

    If you are trying to get me to stop criticizing our governments by shaming me, you will not succeed.
    The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu

    [T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
      I don't think the definition of anarchy by One Bad Pig applies here. And what is Godarchy, exactly? If it means that our only ruler is God, I'm all for it! Indeed that would be exactly what I have in mind. Putting our faith partly on our governments instead of God . . . nooo!
      I do not put any faith at all in my government. That does not change the fact that I recognize that without it, or some other similar structure, the rest of the world would walk in and take over. That is what I see as living in the world as I see it, rather than deluding myself that real peace and freedom can exist apart from some governmental structure in this fallen world. It may be crummy, but it is better than the alternative.
      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
        I do not understand.
        It's a reference to the popular grand strategy video game series Civilization where when for example you change your government type from an absolute monarchy, to a republic you suffer a turn of anarchy where you do not progress in any way, which is detrimental because you gain neither cash, nor science, nor production, nor culture the four most important resources in the game for that turn.
        Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
          I do not understand.
          It is a reference to a turn based strategy game.
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
            It is irrelevant to the case for anarchy that some alleged anarchists (who??) took power.

            I wonder if you really did read all of the OP.

            Benefits of anarchy? Actually, if I am right, we should rather ask, can we rely on our governments (city, county, state, nation) to do more good than bad?
            So you can't think of a single benefit anarchy has ever brought anyone.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
              So you think I should live in this world as I want it to be, rather than live in it as I find it?

              I think it is ok to take advantage of this or that government program as long as 1) I continue to show my disapproval of people putting faith in our governments rather than God and 2) try to be on net a giver (not be a taker overall). Why should I not try to get some return for the taxes that I incur?

              If you are trying to get me to stop criticizing our governments by shaming me, you will not succeed.

              You can do whatever you want. I just wanted you to know how hypocritical you are.

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              • #22
                Ok, I'm hypocritical.

                It seems as though Sparko does not understand how hard it is for someone to live in this world who uses none of government services or goods. He could die, in fact, or be imprisoned. Why should self-declared anarchists always refuse to compromise with the world?
                The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu

                [T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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                • #23
                  What government service or good (in the USA) mandates death or imprisonment if it is refused?
                  Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    What government service or good (in the USA) mandates death or imprisonment if it is refused?
                    I'm not sure what you mean by "mandated"--as though refusing to use a government service leads to imprisonment or even death.

                    But there is a somewhat close example. Obamacare levies a tax on everyone who refuses to enroll for medical insurance.
                    The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu

                    [T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
                      I'm not sure what you mean by "mandated"--as though refusing to use a government service leads to imprisonment or even death.

                      But there is a somewhat close example. Obamacare levies a tax on everyone who refuses to enroll for medical insurance.
                      I mean whatever the heck you mean by insinuating possible death or imprisonment in your post above.
                      Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                      Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
                        Ok, I'm hypocritical.

                        It seems as though Sparko does not understand how hard it is for someone to live in this world who uses none of government services or goods. He could die, in fact, or be imprisoned. Why should self-declared anarchists always refuse to compromise with the world?
                        so taking government subsidies for windmills (or solar power as you imagined) and to make extra cash is a life and death matter for you?

                        Keep moving those goal posts.

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                        • #27
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                          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                          Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                          I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                          • #28
                            Last I checked, the penalty for not enrolling in Obamacare is not lethal injection.
                            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                              Last I checked, the penalty for not enrolling in Obamacare is not lethal injection.
                              That's obviously because none have survived the ordeal and come back to tell us about it.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                                Last I checked, the penalty for not enrolling in Obamacare is not lethal injection.
                                The ultimate penalty for all crimes is death. Try resisting all the way. It's gonna get violent, and unless you submit they will kill you.
                                "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                                There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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