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  • Darth Executor
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  • Darth Executor
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    Originally posted by square_peg View Post
    Interesting that eyewitness testimony is considered so valuable now, after all that other eyewitness testimony was dismissed. But anyhow, I asked the question more for an answer on what constitutes murder. Believing that Wilson's version of events is true and believing that the killing was wrong aren't mutually exclusive.
    Of course it's valuable. Black people testifying against a black martyr? Why would they, unless they genuinely believe it and care more about justice than they do about sticking it to whitie.

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  • MaxVel
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    Originally posted by square_peg View Post
    What leads you to believe this?
    Murder is premeditated unlawful killing* - this killing wasn't premeditated; and more relevantly, has just been declared 'not unlawful' (possible future civil suits etc etc aside). Therefore it wasn't murder.

    A tragedy, a waste, an act of folly - yes to all of those. But not murder.




    * most definitions seem to include some aspect of unlawfulness.

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  • Epoetker
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    Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
    But ... there is no hell. I'll take my good intentions wherever I find them. There are always too few.
    I've always been more of a 'know them by their fruits' type of guy myself. Blame the Christian upbringing.

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  • Littlejoe
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    Originally posted by square_peg View Post
    Interesting that eyewitness testimony is considered so valuable now, after all that other eyewitness testimony was dismissed. But anyhow, I asked the question more for an answer on what constitutes murder. Believing that Wilson's version of events is true and believing that the killing was wrong aren't mutually exclusive.
    I have trouble with the concept that any rational person, let alone a white policeman in a black neighborhood, would take the chance of outright murdering a citizen in broad daylight, in the middle of the street, in a crowded apt complex, in front of eye witnesses, knowing he would have to stick around afterward (not run and try to get away) and hope to get away with it... Simply doesn't make sense...unless it happened more or less like he said it did. Which was at least corroborated by several witness and (at the very least partially) by the autopsy evidence.

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  • seanD
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    Originally posted by square_peg View Post
    Interesting that eyewitness testimony is considered so valuable now, after all that other eyewitness testimony was dismissed. But anyhow, I asked the question more for an answer on what constitutes murder. Believing that Wilson's version of events is true and believing that the killing was wrong aren't mutually exclusive.
    Which group of eyewitnesses would you logically consider more reliable (keep in mind that one of the eyewitnesses claiming Brown surrendered was his accomplice in the liquor store robbery)?

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  • fm93
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    Originally posted by seanD View Post
    The 7 eyewitnesses (black eyewitnesses) that back Wilson's version?
    Interesting that eyewitness testimony is considered so valuable now, after all that other eyewitness testimony was dismissed. But anyhow, I asked the question more for an answer on what constitutes murder. Believing that Wilson's version of events is true and believing that the killing was wrong aren't mutually exclusive.

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  • seanD
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    Originally posted by square_peg View Post
    What leads you to believe this?
    The 7 eyewitnesses (black eyewitnesses) that back Wilson's version?

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  • fm93
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    Originally posted by MaxVel View Post



    The killing was a tragedy, sure. But murder... No.
    What leads you to believe this?

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  • MaxVel
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    Originally posted by Kelp(p) View Post
    A man is getting away with murder, damnit!



    The killing was a tragedy, sure. But murder... No.

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  • Kelp(p)
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    Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
    What leads you to believe this?
    My apologies. I should not have jumped to conclusions. It was the heat of the moment. CR's insensitivity just bit me hard.

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  • Littlejoe
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    Originally posted by Kelp(p) View Post
    Do you know how to quit being a jackass for one damn thread? A man is getting away with murder, damnit! Let people respond to it how they can.
    first time I've SERIOUSLY disagreed with you...

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  • Zymologist
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    Originally posted by Kelp(p) View Post
    Do you know how to quit being a jackass for one damn thread? A man is getting away with murder, damnit! Let people respond to it how they can.
    What leads you to believe this?

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  • Kelp(p)
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    Originally posted by ChaosRain View Post
    The ultimate false placebo.
    Do you know how to quit being a jackass for one damn thread? A man is getting away with murder, damnit! Let people respond to it how they can.

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  • Darth Executor
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    Michael Brown's family claims no indictment according to USA today.

    Edit: no indictment. Bill Cosby called me to say everyone should take a chill pill with their whine.
    Last edited by Darth Executor; 11-24-2014, 08:32 PM.

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