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    Bill Kristol, at least, is being magnanimous:

    Originally posted by William Kristol
    So Chuck Hagel has been fired as defense secretary. We were critical of his appointment, and opposed his confirmation by the Senate. But let's be clear: Hagel has done what he was asked and what was expected of him at the Pentagon. To the degree he has deviated from the Obama White House line, he's been more right than wrong (e.g., on the threat the Islamic State poses).

    So why has he been fired? Because the Obama White House needs a scapegoat. President George W, Bush fired Don Rumsfeld in connection with a change in strategy (the surge) and to bring in someone of independent stature. That's not the case today. President Obama continues to want a Pentagon with weak leadership and little independence. There's therefore no reason to expect the next two years of Obama foreign and defense policy to be any better than the past two.
    Place your bets on the replacement: woman, gay, minority, or all three?

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    Originally posted by Epoetker View Post
    Place your bets on the replacement: woman, gay, minority, or all three?
    Why does it matter?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by ChaosRain View Post
      Why does it matter?
      I'd like to know that too. There's certainly no end of "First X Y!!!!!!!!" coming from the progressive camp.
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      • #4
        No love for Hagel but does anyone think that this was his idea to leave?

        I'm always still in trouble again

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
          I'd like to know that too. There's certainly no end of "First X Y!!!!!!!!" coming from the progressive camp.
          I can't help but feel as though this was a poke at me, but I can't say for sure.
          “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” - Richard Dawkins

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            No love for Hagel but does anyone think that this was his idea to leave?
            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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            • #7
              He must have ticked off Valerie Jarrett one too many times.
              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Epoetker View Post
                Bill Kristol, at least, is being magnanimous:
                Dana Milbank is not:
                When Barack Obama looks in the mirror these days, he must see a terrifying visage staring back at him: that of George W. Bush.

                In a cruel echo of history, Obama is morphing into the president whose foreign policy he campaigned to overturn. Obama on Monday morning sacked his Pentagon secretary, Chuck Hagel, after huge midterm election losses in the sixth year of his presidency — just as Bush did in sacking Donald Rumsfeld after midterm losses in the sixth year of his presidency.
                And he's no conservative.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ChaosRain View Post
                  I can't help but feel as though this was a poke at me, but I can't say for sure.
                  CP CR

                  Now you can be sure.
                  "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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