The new, gentler, inclusive and tolerant branch of the KKK

[Epoetker]

Rocky Mountain Knights

Must love Rocky Mountain Oysters to join.

But srsly, it's a kind of open joke that the Klan has been 50% FBI agents and 50% SPLC 'infiltrators' for a long while.

While we're on the subject of The Onion, who wants to take outside bets on the chances that they would write an article entitled "Ferguson Shatters No Stereotypes"?

[Mountain Man]

The Democrats weren't liberal by the standards of the time or of our time. No matter which way you look at it, Mountain Man's statement is factually incorrect.

So you're trying to say that the Democrats who started the KKK were really Republicans?

[KingsGambit]

I have doubts as to how accurate projecting current political labels onto past generations is going to be. With different sets of pressing issues, it's going to end up being anachronistic.

[Meta Knight]

Please explain the harsh political change in the Solid South in the 60s.

There wasn't one. The only times it's gone entirely Republican were '64, '72, '80, '84, and since '00, when all the old racist Democrats had died out. And three of those ('72, '80, and '84) were elections where the Republican candidate won more than 45 states because he ran on a strong anti-Communist platform and the Democratic candidate ran on an anti-war platform (not even getting into the debacle that was Carter's presidency). Contrary to the liberal myth, there were other issues important to the American populace besides civil rights.

[Mountain Man]

I have doubts as to how accurate projecting current political labels onto past generations is going to be. With different sets of pressing issues, it's going to end up being anachronistic.

Well, except for the fact that Democrats fought racial equality all the way up through the Civil Rights protests of the 1960s and continue to promote racist and ultimately oppressive policies like affirmative action and other forms of "social justice" (which are anything but just), so apparently that apple didn't fall far from its tree.

[Jedidiah]

Well, except for the fact that Democrats fought racial equality all the way up through the Civil Rights protests of the 1960s and continue to promote racist and ultimately oppressive policies like affirmative action and other forms of "social justice" (which are anything but just), so apparently that apple didn't fall far from its tree.

Amazing I agree with you both here. ???

[Psychic Missile]

So you're trying to say that the Democrats who started the KKK were really Republicans?

The argument that "the KKK is not ultra right wing because they were started by Democrats" is factually incorrect because it depends upon the Democratic Party not being right wing. Historically, the Democratic Party was not always left wing.

[Psychic Missile]

There wasn't one. The only times it's gone entirely Republican were '64, '72, '80, '84, and since '00, when all the old racist Democrats had died out. And three of those ('72, '80, and '84) were elections where the Republican candidate won more than 45 states because he ran on a strong anti-Communist platform and the Democratic candidate ran on an anti-war platform (not even getting into the debacle that was Carter's presidency). Contrary to the liberal myth, there were other issues important to the American populace besides civil rights.

Discounting WV, the South voted straight Democrat 13 times between 1876 and 1948. Since 1968, the majority of southern states have voted Republican with the sole exception of Carter's election. The Solid South originates from the North/South Democrat shift prior to the Civil War. The Republicans had control of the North and Democrats the South when Northern Democrats switched over. In the 60s, a we got historically liberal and conservative areas switch. This was not because a single generation of extremists died out. It was because of a major ideological shift within the parties.

[Darth Executor]

Discounting WV, the South voted straight Democrat 13 times between 1876 and 1948. Since 1968, the majority of southern states have voted Republican with the sole exception of Carter's election. The Solid South originates from the North/South Democrat shift prior to the Civil War. The Republicans had control of the North and Democrats the South when Northern Democrats switched over. In the 60s, a we got historically liberal and conservative areas switch. This was not because a single generation of extremists died out. It was because of a major ideological shift within the parties.

There was no major ideological shift within the republican party, just the Democratic party, which went full retard in the other direction.

[Meta Knight]

There was no major ideological shift within the republican party, just the Democratic party, which went full retard in the other direction.

I just put PM back on ignore, so I can only see his quotes, which is what I'm answering.

The majority of the South went Independent in 1968 (you don't get to move the cutoff date up four years just because it's convenient), and then it was split evenly in '92 and '96 and was majority Blue in '76. And again, '72, '80, and '84 were years the Republican candidate carried 47+ states because the Dems weren't tough enough against the Soviets. Communism was a much more pressing issue to the American public than was civil rights.