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  • Epoetker
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    Originally posted by firstfloor
    But in most situations, a shovel will do much more good than a gun.
    At melee range, most definitely. The swords/plowshares dichotomy is a product of a happier time where symbols were taken seriously.

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  • KingsGambit
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    firstfloor, you are a blatant troll. Remember when you were sneaking jokes about Christian sacraments being latent examples of homosexuality into your responses to gerry (knowing full well he wouldn't get them because he can't speak English), then complaining a few days later that nobody took you seriously?

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  • Jedidiah
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    Stuff like this from ff surprises you? Why?

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  • lilpixieofterror
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    A "tunnel between worlds"? So, you dig a hole in the ground, and somehow tunnel to another world? Groovy!
    I think he read it from a bumper sticker. It's a way of trying to sound superior, without actually being superior.

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  • lilpixieofterror
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    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
    Interesting article. So there's hope for the USA yet.
    Your hatred of religion coming up again, eh Tazzy Wazzy? So have you got to work on refuting my argument against your abuse of the HDI or do you think ignoring me and ignoring my arguments will make them go away?

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  • lilpixieofterror
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    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    A tunnel between worlds starts as a hole in the ground.
    Do you enjoy saying random bumper sticking sayings FF? I recall Alice falling down a hole into another world. How well did that work out fo rher?

    Yes LPOT I know that very well.
    This week I am listening to the PBS series “God in America”.

    STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: “I think America is a story. And Americans, as they move - as they first come here, as they move west, as they move out into the world - they're telling a story. And the story they're telling is a Biblical story. I think it's the Exodus story. They're telling a story about the movement of a people out of slavery into freedom, out of the old world into the new, out of the place of the Pharaoh, or George III, into this place of freedom.
    And this started to become a new world instead of just the old world in a new place. And so much of what drives the story of America is figuring out what that new thing should be.
    And this has what to do with the price of tea in china or a word I said? Do you just enjoy ranting for the sake of ranting about nothing that has a thing to do with a word anybody said?

    What should that new thing be?”

    And the next new thing is this:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-conservatives
    “The so-called millennials (Americans born between 1982 and 2000) are far more diverse, educated and tolerant than their predecessors. They’re also the least religious generation in American history – they’re even getting less religious as they get older, which is unprecedented – and the majority of them identify Christianity as synonymous with harsh political conservatism.”
    And this has what to do with a word I said? The interesting thing is that I was born in the mid 1980's and also fit into the millennial generation demographic too. The thing is that most of the most anti religious ones are exposed to anti religion day and night. I've ran into these types in both the military and college. Refuting their claims really isn't that hard because so few of them are well versed on the complex nature of which they think their opinion rest. I remember one that tried to use The Da Vinci Code as some sort of grand Christian refutation. Problem was that I had already studied that topic and was able to thoroughly refute everything he said. Instead of admitting to his error, he just stopped bringing up the topic when I was around. Yep, good way to deal with things you can't refute, just ignore it and hope it goes away. Goes to show that intellectual dishonest and laziness isn't just limited to those who are religious, eh? Besides, this is just a giant ad populum fallacy anyway. It really doesn't matter if millions are Christians or not. The truth of Christianity doesn't rest on the number of believers. I would think somebody, who claims to be a 'follower of reason' would be aware of logical fallacies, such as that. Yep, that the sort of nonsense that passes as truth among the skeptical community today... yet you wonder why I don't accept skepticism?

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by sparko View Post
    sorry but even tassman and jiml are taken more seriously than you are.
    OWWWWwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!

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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    It's early days yet.
    Sorry but even Tassman and JimL are taken more seriously than you are.

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  • firstfloor
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    (I just don't take you seriously)
    It's early days yet.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    Talking about spaceships, discussions with you tend to have this quality about them:

    “(Dave Bowman: Hello, HAL. Do you read me, HAL?
    HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.
    Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
    HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
    Dave Bowman: What's the problem?
    HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
    Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HAL?
    HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
    Dave Bowman: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL.)” - 2001 ASO


    Just pulling your chain. And it appears to be working.

    (I just don't take you seriously)

    But you can't dig a hoe in dirt, and end up on another planet. Not even to China!

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  • firstfloor
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    But that won't get you to another world. You really need a spaceship or something.
    Talking about spaceships, discussions with you tend to have this quality about them:

    “(Dave Bowman: Hello, HAL. Do you read me, HAL?
    HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.
    Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
    HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
    Dave Bowman: What's the problem?
    HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
    Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HAL?
    HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
    Dave Bowman: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL.)” - 2001 ASO

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    You are being too literal CP. Digging holes is very often world changing. It could be a fresh water well or a Civil War trench. But in most situations, a shovel will do much more good than a gun.
    “They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.”
    But that won't get you to another world. You really need a spaceship or something.

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  • firstfloor
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    A "tunnel between worlds"? So, you dig a hole in the ground, and somehow tunnel to another world? Groovy!
    You are being too literal CP. Digging holes is very often world changing. It could be a fresh water well or a Civil War trench. But in most situations, a shovel will do much more good than a gun.
    “They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.”

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    A tunnel between worlds starts as a hole in the ground.
    A "tunnel between worlds"? So, you dig a hole in the ground, and somehow tunnel to another world? Groovy!

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  • Tassman
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    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    A tunnel between worlds starts as a hole in the ground.

    Yes LPOT I know that very well.
    This week I am listening to the PBS series “God in America”.

    STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: “I think America is a story. And Americans, as they move - as they first come here, as they move west, as they move out into the world - they're telling a story. And the story they're telling is a Biblical story. I think it's the Exodus story. They're telling a story about the movement of a people out of slavery into freedom, out of the old world into the new, out of the place of the Pharaoh, or George III, into this place of freedom.
    And this started to become a new world instead of just the old world in a new place. And so much of what drives the story of America is figuring out what that new thing should be.
    What should that new thing be?”

    And the next new thing is this:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-conservatives
    “The so-called millennials (Americans born between 1982 and 2000) are far more diverse, educated and tolerant than their predecessors. They’re also the least religious generation in American history – they’re even getting less religious as they get older, which is unprecedented – and the majority of them identify Christianity as synonymous with harsh political conservatism.”
    Interesting article. So there's hope for the USA yet.

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