Those Freedom Loving Liberals!

[Meta Knight]

So... by disagreeing with me, you support the notion that the government can forcefully, at the end of a gun and with the threat of a prison sentence, tax all of it's "citizens" even though they may peacefully disagree with the use, reasoning for and whole system of taxation? How is that not unethical?

Because that's the price you pay for being a citizen of a country. Unless you plan on advocating for the complete elimination of borders, nations need some form of organization to remain nations. Unless you are working from the utterly absurd notion that, in the absence of a governing authority, people would remain pleasant and accommodating to one another.

To quote Lysander Spooner: "The principle that the majority have a right to rule the minority, practically resolves all government into a mere contest between two bodies of men, as to which of them shall be masters, and which of them slaves."

To quote God: "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." I don't understand how you can reconcile anarcho-capitalism with Christianity, since it rests on the assumption of human decency rather than human corruption.

I'm also highly insulted at being referred to as "you people." Just crass.

I'll live.

[KingsGambit]

To be honest, I have a hard time understanding why so many Christians take the philosophical stance that government is inherently evil. The Bible doesn't agree with that stance.

[thewriteranon]

So... by disagreeing with me, you support the notion that the government can forcefully, at the end of a gun and with the threat of a prison sentence, tax all of it's "citizens" even though they may peacefully disagree with the use, reasoning for and whole system of taxation? How is that not unethical?

To quote Lysander Spooner: "The principle that the majority have a right to rule the minority, practically resolves all government into a mere contest between two bodies of men, as to which of them shall be masters, and which of them slaves."

I'm also highly insulted at being referred to as "you people." Just crass.

And Obama is a socialist and a liar and his feet stink.

That said, I can't continue this conversation, mainly because I am in and out of massive amounts of pain.

[Y'hoshua]

This.

This right here is why I cannot take you people seriously.

So... by disagreeing with me, you support the notion that the government can forcefully, at the end of a gun and with the threat of a prison sentence, tax all of it's "citizens" even though they may peacefully disagree with the use, reasoning for and whole system of taxation? How is that not unethical?

To quote Lysander Spooner: "The principle that the majority have a right to rule the minority, practically resolves all government into a mere contest between two bodies of men, as to which of them shall be masters, and which of them slaves."

I'm also highly insulted at being referred to as "you people." Just crass.

[Meta Knight]

The Tea Party would still promote *a form* of government, which is still statism, which is still authoritarian, which is still immoral and unethical. They're a bunch of neo-cons who like to talk like anarchists but are not really into liberty.

This.

This right here is why I cannot take you people seriously.

[Cow Poke]

But...but who would build the roads??????

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[thewriteranon]

Umm... thewriteranon just said "Has anyone here even heard of the non-aggression principle?" Were you not paying attention or did you ignore it on purpose?

The Tea Party would still promote *a form* of government, which is still statism, which is still authoritarian, which is still immoral and unethical. They're is a bunch of neo-cons who like to talk like anarchists but are not really into liberty.

And since when have anarchists ever thrown bombs since the 1886 Haymarket Square riot? Historically, the majority of anarchists encourage nonviolent means for this goal (hence non-aggression principle).

...At least, anarcho-capitalists do not throw bombs. I cannot speak for anarcho-communists who are insane.

But...but who would build the roads??????

[Y'hoshua]

No, no! That is the Tea Party. We do not throw bombs.

Umm... thewriteranon just said "Has anyone here even heard of the non-aggression principle?" Were you not paying attention or did you ignore it on purpose?

The Tea Party would still promote *a form* of government, which is still statism, which is still authoritarian, which is still immoral and unethical. They're a bunch of neo-cons who like to talk like anarchists but are not really into liberty.

And since when have anarchists ever thrown bombs since the 1886 Haymarket Square riot? Historically, the majority of anarchists encourage nonviolent means for this goal (hence non-aggression principle).

...At least, anarcho-capitalists do not throw bombs. I cannot speak for anarcho-communists who are insane.

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[Jedidiah]

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No, no! That is the Tea Party. We do not throw bombs.

[Y'hoshua]

Has anyone here even heard of the non-aggression principle? Anyone? Bueller?

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[thewriteranon]

Suppose a group of anarchists wanted to meet in school to discuss the construction of home made bombs? It’s actually pretty generous of the school to allow them the use of school premises to indoctrinate young minds with the same sort of superstitious nonsense that resulted in a witch burning in Paraguay last week.

Has anyone here even heard of the non-aggression principle? Anyone? Bueller?

[Cerealman]

Cute!

Nevertheless, the US is more religious than most developed nations so it is interesting to note that it has has more guns – and gun deaths – than any other country:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2...y-study-finds/

And the highest rates of incarceration:

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Arti...rceration.aspx

And the most inequitable distribution of wealth of any nation in the in the developed world:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-z...b_4408647.html

So is religion the cause of such inequity and violence? Or does it have no impact upon the lives of its adherents and their behaviour?

Still strange you hop on the blame religion bandwagon for all of this.

[One Bad Pig]

Cute!

Nevertheless, the US is more religious than most developed nations so it is interesting to note that it has has more guns – and gun deaths – than any other country:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2...y-study-finds/

And the highest rates of incarceration:

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Arti...rceration.aspx

And the most inequitable distribution of wealth of any nation in the in the developed world:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-z...b_4408647.html

So is religion the cause of such inequity and violence? Or does it have no impact upon the lives of its adherents and their behaviour?

Good luck linking any of those to Christian principles.

[Jedidiah]

This is a mockery to every person who has suffered actual violence. Rape victims, abused women, battered children.... it is a sham to compare "evangelism" with violence. You should be ashamed.

firstfloor is all mockery any how. That is why I stopped responding to his posts.

[Cow Poke]

Evangelism is a very subtle form of violence.

This is a mockery to every person who has suffered actual violence. Rape victims, abused women, battered children.... it is a sham to compare "evangelism" with violence. You should be ashamed.