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  • #31
    Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
    I don't think he was looking very hard.
    I work with moderate liberals all the time. And a few militant ones.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
      I don't think he was looking very hard.
      I'm glad you're back, Pman, even though you're wrong so much of the time!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        I work with moderate liberals all the time. And a few militant ones.
        I was just thinking this morning that I feel the Western world is lurching to the right. We have conservative governments in the UK, the US and Oz. In fact here, our conservative Liberal party (which is liberal in no sense of the word) is much more conservative than previous Liberal governments. So much so, that a previous Liberal party PM, Malcom Fraser, has left his own party!

        When I come on here, with its conservative US focus, I find words I think I know the meaning of used in peculiar ways. I think for example that Obama is slightly right of centre and as an Australian I'm disappointed in what his presidency has achieved. He is certainly not a socialist. I think the US electorate is further to the right than ours. We've had a woman, atheist PM living in a de facto relationship. That must blow you guys's minds. You have an electorate where no one has a hope of being elected to higher office without publicly avowing their Christianity and yet you think American Christianity is persecuted.

        I find it all really weird.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
          I was just thinking this morning that I feel the Western world is lurching to the right. We have conservative governments in the UK, the US and Oz. In fact here, our conservative Liberal party (which is liberal in no sense of the word) is much more conservative than previous Liberal governments. So much so, that a previous Liberal party PM, Malcom Fraser, has left his own party!

          When I come on here, with its conservative US focus, I find words I think I know the meaning of used in peculiar ways. I think for example that Obama is slightly right of centre and as an Australian I'm disappointed in what his presidency has achieved. He is certainly not a socialist. I think the US electorate is further to the right than ours. We've had a woman, atheist PM living in a de facto relationship. That must blow you guys's minds. You have an electorate where no one has a hope of being elected to higher office without publicly avowing their Christianity and yet you think American Christianity is persecuted.

          I find it all really weird.
          I get confused by the "right" and "left" labels of the various countries, and "conservative" and "liberal".... yeah..... and while I was in Israel, I got a whole NEW perspective on "liberal" vs "conservative".
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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