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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI'm interested. Could you describe a solution to this (as briefly as you like), economically?Originally posted by Spartacus View PostIt starts by seeing the economy primarily as something that's supposed to serve human needs rather than something whose needs we must fill by our labor. Or, as I said before, businesses exist to participate in the common good. A business owner seeks profit only insofar as it helps to sustain the business, which also includes providing for the needs of employees. A business owner might ask those who benefit from the goods or services he provides to compensate him at a rate which will allow him to continue providing those goods or services. In other words, a business owner makes a product, charges consumers for it, and pays his employees. In a lot of ways, it doesn't look all that different from what we already have, but profits are made to serve people rather than the other way around.
Ceteris paribus, the business owner who is greedy is generally able to price goods at a lower price. So if purchasers go for the lower priced goods, who are they incentivising? Ergo the concept of fair trade.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostSo what's the difference between appealing to Christian values and morality to avarice and to gay marriage? What makes one "apples" and the other "oranges"?That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostSo individuals' avarice have no social impact at all?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI'll add something: there needs to be a change in purchasing habits.
Ceteris paribus, the business owner who is greedy is generally able to price goods at a lower price. So if purchasers go for the lower priced goods, who are they incentivising? Ergo the concept of fair trade.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostYou might want to look up the implementation of fair trade which I mentioned earlier. That is one possible route.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostIndeed, but what about those who can afford to do so?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSure, but even those who can "afford" to do so have to be MOTIVATED to do so -- that's an uphill battle.
And many of us see this as a gimmick.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostIndeed, and hasn't the free trade movement managed to motivate many of them to do so?
You asked how I propose to get consumers to pay more for things they can get for less. As is clear from the fair trade movement, it is certainly possible to do so. And you answer your own question: there needs to be an motivation that will outweigh the motivation to go for the cheaper product.
It's an education challenge.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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It seems like "Fair Trade" is related to "everybody is equal, but some are more equal than others".
Surprise! Fairtrade Doesn't Benefit The Poor Peasants
Also, see here.
ETA: I have often wondered about "Fair Trade", so I started a new thread so as not to derail this one further.Last edited by Cow Poke; 10-23-2014, 09:07 AM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostYou might want to look up the implementation of fair trade which I mentioned earlier. That is one possible route.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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