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  • Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
    Have you ever read the book of Tobit? I'd not be surprised or offended if not, since it's a deuterocanonical, but it's kinda hard to talk about deuterocanonicals when I'm told to bring in "regular guy terms"
    No, I haven't. I have a copy, I think, in my library, but there are so many books I 'intend' to read.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • I have a copy of it as well, and I do intend to read through it (as well as several other deuterocanonical books). Haven't yet.
      I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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      • Originally posted by Spartacus
        [18+3=21 woooooo]
        English or Metric?
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          English or Metric?
          Cross-post. Sorry.

          Anyway, came across a link I think might be relevant: https://time.com/author/james-martin/
          Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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          • Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
            I have a copy of it as well, and I do intend to read through it (as well as several other deuterocanonical books). Haven't yet.
            Anderson's argument gives Tobit's story deep parallels to the book of Job, but with a greater emphasis on almsgiving as the way in which one demonstrates faithfulness to God.
            Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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            • Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
              Anderson's argument gives Tobit's story deep parallels to the book of Job, but with a greater emphasis on almsgiving as the way in which one demonstrates faithfulness to God.
              Somewhere in the Bible I seem to remember the "obedience is better than sacrifice" thing -- a better way to demonstrate faithfulness.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                So what's the difference between appealing to Christian values and morality to avarice and to gay marriage? What makes one "apples" and the other "oranges"?
                The difference is I have no input to commercial avarice. I find it wrong, and applaud examples of it's opposite. Gay marriage I do have an input when it comes to voting. I am opposed to abuse of homosexuals (since I see homosexuality as pathology) but that does not mean I have to agree with the prevailing legal sentiment as to homosexual marriage.
                Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                  The difference is I have no input to commercial avarice. I find it wrong, and applaud examples of it's opposite. Gay marriage I do have an input when it comes to voting. I am opposed to abuse of homosexuals (since I see homosexuality as pathology) but that does not mean I have to agree with the prevailing legal sentiment as to homosexual marriage.
                  It seems one could provide "input" to commercial avarice in exactly the same fashion that one provides input to same-sex marriage: by voting for representatives who advance policies and platforms designed to curb the behavior in question. Just as you would support a politician who proposes a federal ban on same-sex marriage, you might support a politician who proposes larger taxes on corporate profits, specialty taxes on executive pay, taxes on luxury items or vacation homes. Or even supporting a politician who advocates raising the minimum wage or providing affordable and comprehensive healthcare to all Americans.

                  It really is a long walk to argue that sins of wealth are somehow less able to be legislated against than sins of sexuality.
                  "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                  • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                    The difference is I have no input to commercial avarice.
                    Is that so?

                    Gay marriage I do have an input when it comes to voting.
                    Does that mean you have voted or are likely to vote in a referendum about gay marriage?

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                    • Originally posted by Sam View Post
                      It seems one could provide "input" to commercial avarice in exactly the same fashion that one provides input to same-sex marriage: by voting for representatives who advance policies and platforms designed to curb the behavior in question. Just as you would support a politician who proposes a federal ban on same-sex marriage, you might support a politician who proposes larger taxes on corporate profits, specialty taxes on executive pay, taxes on luxury items or vacation homes. Or even supporting a politician who advocates raising the minimum wage or providing affordable and comprehensive healthcare to all Americans.

                      It really is a long walk to argue that sins of wealth are somehow less able to be legislated against than sins of sexuality.
                      By "sins of wealth" do you mean the sin of greed that often coincides with wealth, or that wealth is sinful?
                      I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                      • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        United States v. Windsor was one single incident that ended up costing the Government $363,053 in estate taxes. The math logically supports my claim
                        That is one incident. How many incidents should be expected per annum?

                        Avarice is a personal issue where a single person fails in a moral decision which results in potential harm to a segment of society (with no government intervention or responsibility) while homosexual marriage is a social issue that government has a particular role in intervening. That's the difference. We do not need to legislate things that have no bearing on government responsibility, such as personal avarice. We DO need to legislate things that the government is directly responsible for (like providing government benefits).
                        Are you trying to claim that avarice has not resulted in great actual harm to society?

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                        • Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                          By "sins of wealth" do you mean the sin of greed that often coincides with wealth, or that wealth is sinful?
                          That reminds me of...

                          Mahatma Gandhi:
                          There are seven sins in the world
                          1 Wealth without work
                          2 Pleasure without conscience
                          3 Commerce without morality
                          4 Science without humanity
                          5 Worship without sacrifice
                          6 Politics without principle
                          7 Knowledge without character
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                            post #276 dude
                            All it says is that you think I am wrong. But I am not.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                              By "sins of wealth" do you mean the sin of greed that often coincides with wealth, or that wealth is sinful?
                              Sins under the category of avarice; I do not find wealth, in itself, to be necessarily sinful (though it can be the case that merely having wealth is sinful).
                              "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                              • Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                                That is one incident. How many incidents should be expected per annum?
                                Approximately how many homosexual marriages have been licensed since Windsor?

                                Are you trying to claim that avarice has not resulted in great actual harm to society?
                                Are you even trying to understand what I am saying? From this question, it seems like you are not.
                                That's what
                                - She

                                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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