so I guess the answer is "no" - Jimmy can't show GWB lying like Obama, and neither can he show anyone to be a racist.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postso I guess the answer is "no" - Jimmy can't show GWB lying like Obama, and neither can he show anyone to be a racist.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIs that all you have CP? That is why you have such contempt for this particular president over all past presidents? You can call it a blatant lie if you want. We can disagree about that and at any rate he apologzed.
It's there, Jimmy, in his own words... and I asked you to come up with ANYTHING even REMOTELY similar that Bush did, and all you can do is WEASEL.
This is why nobody can take you seriously.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostUnlike yourself, I don't have to go looking for video's to argue my point CP.
If you don't think GWB lied about Iraq, and weapons of Mass destruction, well good for you.
You are very naive.
But really you can't be so naive as to believe that past presidents have not lied to the American people.
So, what then is the real reason for your "never so much contempt" comment with regards to Obama? Surely there must be more to it than that!
*I bet I'm a racist for having a Big Chief Yellow Tablet!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostUnfortunately, this won't be the ONLY totally ignorant thing you say.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat is why you have such contempt for this particular president over all past presidents? You can call it a blatant lie if you want. We can disagree about that and at any rate he apologzed.
ThanksThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/politi...acare-apology/
not that I'm happy with his performance. But he did apologize.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhy do you think he put himself through all this when even his own advisers recommended he not try passing health care reform? He did it in the interests of the country.
Originally posted by President Obama’s health care conversionSoon-to-be-candidate Obama, then an Illinois senator, was thinking about turning down an invitation to speak at a big health care conference sponsored by the progressive group Families USA, when two aides, Robert Gibbs and Jon Favreau, hit on an idea that would make him appear more prepared and committed than he actually was at the moment.
Why not just announce his intention to pass universal health care by the end of his first term?
Thus was born Obamacare, a check-the-box, news-cycle expedient that would ultimately define a president.
“We needed something to say,” recalled one of the advisers involved in the discussion. “I can’t tell you how little thought was given to that thought other than it sounded good. So they just kind of hatched it on their own. It just happened. It wasn’t like a deep strategic conversation.”
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The candidate jumped at it. He probably wasn’t going to get elected anyway, the team concluded. Why not go big?
“In the 2008 campaign, affordable, universal health care for every single American must not be a question of whether, it must be a question of how,” Obama said at the Families USA conference. “We have the ideas, we have the resources, and we must find the will to pass a plan by the end of the next president’s first term.”
LinkLast edited by CMD; 01-26-2014, 06:05 PM.
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View Posthttp://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/politi...acare-apology/
not that I'm happy with his performance. But he did apologize.
"Obama's comments come days after he attempted to clarify what he meant when he assured Americans in previous years that they would be able to keep their plans under the Affordable Care Act, a controversy that is prompting legislation in Congress to address it."
And... ""I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me," he told NBC News in an exclusive interview."
So, how exactly does that help the millions who have lost their insurance?
(And I fully realize, DB, you're not arguing.... you were being helpful in finding the "apology", such as it is)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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So, reading that article further.... AFTER he sorta kinda apologizes, he continues to lie. (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, and pretend that I think he was speaking honestly, albeit as ignorantly as Jimmy)....
(Does the "box" function work?)
""Most of the folks who ... got these cancellation letters, they'll be able to get better care at the same cost or cheaper in these new marketplaces," Obama said, also noting that "we have to make sure" people do not feel as if they've been betrayed by an effort carried out with their best interests in mind.
"They'll have more choice, they'll have more competition. They're part of a bigger pool. The insurance companies are going to be hungry for their business. So the majority of folks will end up being better off," he said."
Simply not true.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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It's one thing to say you intend to do something and make every effort to make that happen, but still failing to accomplish it. It's another to know two years in advance that many people were going to lose their health insurance and promise them they could keep it regardless of that."Faith is nothing less than the will to keep one's mind fixed precisely on what reason has discovered to it." - Edward Feser
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNever said that, Jimmy. Politicians lie. I asked you to produce ANYTHING comparable to the BLATANT and REPEATED lies that Obama has told, and his LIES to try to cover up his LIES. Ya got NOTHING.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOh, very good CP, so politicians lie. But the very reason you give for being so contemptous of this particular politician is because he, according to you, lies.
So, again I ask you, if politicians lie, then what is the reason that you are so much the more contemptuous of Obama?
Now, PLEASE, Jimmy, show me ANYTHING that Bush said that was as BLATANT and CLEAR CUT as the lies Obama REPEATEDLY told, then lied about what he lied about, while claiming to be the most transparent government in history.
Please stop the kabuki dance, Jimmy, and try your little best to come up with SOMETHING on the order of Obama's blatant lies.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, this isn't just a "I did not have sekshul relations with that woman", Jimmy.... this is a blatant outright fabrication in order to pass legislation, and to keep his butt in office, causing ignorant suckers like you to trust him, and create one of the biggest financial messes this country will ever see, while promising "you can KEEP your doctor, PERIOD"......
He takes it to a whole new level, and the media is complicit in his dastardly deeds.
Now, PLEASE, Jimmy, show me ANYTHING that Bush said that was as BLATANT and CLEAR CUT as the lies Obama REPEATEDLY told, then lied about what he lied about, while claiming to be the most transparent government in history.
Please stop the kabuki dance, Jimmy, and try your little best to come up with SOMETHING on the order of Obama's blatant lies.Last edited by JimL; 01-26-2014, 11:21 PM.
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