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    VP Biden had declared that "come hell or high water" we will be out of Afghanistan by the end of this year. Afghanistan recently made a pact allowing US forces to stay until 2024.
    The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu

    [T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

  • #2
    Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
    VP Biden had declared that "come hell or high water" we will be out of Afghanistan by the end of this year. Afghanistan recently made a pact allowing US forces to stay until 2024.
    Uncle Joe... bless his heart.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
      VP Biden had declared that "come hell or high water" we will be out of Afghanistan by the end of this year. Afghanistan recently made a pact allowing US forces to stay until 2024.
      Too bad Nouri al-Maliki did not allow us to keep more modest force in Iraq. I am not advocating perpetual war, of course, but once we were dragged into the previously relatively stable mess in Iraq, we might have been able to (at least delay if not) prevent the slide into civil war with the ascendnce of ISIS. The question is, how long would we have needed to stay to perpetually delay the inevitalbe?
      βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
      ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

      אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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      • #4
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        • #5
          Originally posted by robrecht View Post
          Too bad Nouri al-Maliki did not allow us to keep more modest force in Iraq. I am not advocating perpetual war, of course, but once we were dragged into the previously relatively stable mess in Iraq, we might have been able to (at least delay if not) prevent the slide into civil war with the ascendnce of ISIS.
          Yeah

          The question is, how long would we have needed to stay to perpetually delay the inevitalbe?
          Perpetually?
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Yeah

            Perpetually?
            Yeah. Which is one of the reasons why we never should have gone in there, not to mention the fact that they had nothing to do with 9/11.
            βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
            ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

            אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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            • #7
              Originally posted by robrecht View Post
              Yeah. Which is one of the reasons why we never should have gone in there, not to mention the fact that they had nothing to do with 9/11.
              And the Russians tried to teach us what a wonderful idea it is to go fight in Afghanistan.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                And the Russians tried to teach us what a wonderful idea it is to go fight in Afghanistan.
                Yeah, there too. A simple extradition request has become a 13+ year war with no real end in sight.
                βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
                ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

                אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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                • #9
                  The fact is we are in WW3 whether any one wants to admit it or not. It will be a hundred year war. And our troops will need to be strategically placed around the world.
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    The fact is we are in WW3 whether any one wants to admit it or not. It will be a hundred year war. And our troops will need to be strategically placed around the world.
                    Hardly a world war. Do leave the rest of us out of it.

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                    • #11
                      With hardly anyone willing to send troops? Hardly a world war.
                      βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
                      ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

                      אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by robrecht View Post
                        Which is one of the reasons why we never should have gone in there
                        How many of such wars have there been in the last two decades? When will you guys learn?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                          How many of such wars have there been in the last two decades? When will you guys learn?
                          It's not us it's the crummy politicians we elect.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            It's not us it's the crummy politicians we elect.
                            So you guys haven't learnt to elect good ones yet. I see.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                              Hardly a world war. Do leave the rest of us out of it.
                              No one will be left out since Islam wants the world.
                              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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