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  • Homosexual Rape In The Military

    What don't ask don't tell really means:

    Though women are more likely to be the victims of rape in the military, male-on-male rape is still a serious problem sweeping the U.S. armed forces.

    In a recent GQ article, more than a dozen veterans and current service men came forward to tell of their sexual assault, and how the military institution failed time and time again to bring their predators to justice or get them the psychiatric help they needed.

    When a man enters the military he is ten times likelier to be sexually abused, and in 2012 alone there were an estimated 14,200 reports of male rape.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-stories.html
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    Only 7% of MSP cases that go to trial result in a conviction in the military? That is insane.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    • #3
      I didn't read the article, but is this really homosexual rape based on lust or rape based on power? There's a huge difference.

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      • #4
        Also, is there any evidence other than conjecture that this has anything to do with DADT?
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          Also, is there any evidence other than conjecture that this has anything to do with DADT?
          It's a seer thread. What do you think?
          Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            Also, is there any evidence other than conjecture that this has anything to do with DADT?
            Also, DADT hasn't existed for about four years now.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo View Post
              I didn't read the article, but is this really homosexual rape based on lust or rape based on power? There's a huge difference.
              It is still homosexual rape by definition.
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                Also, DADT hasn't existed for about four years now.
                So what? Now homosexuals can serve openly - that only makes the problem worse.
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #9
                  So seer, are you for banning homosexuals from "serving" in the military?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    So what? Now homosexuals can serve openly - that only makes the problem worse.
                    Could you flesh out your reasoning a bit? kthnx.
                    Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                      Could you flesh out your reasoning a bit? kthnx.
                      Sure, if you put men who are sexually attracted to men in ever increasing, closer proximity, to other men, you are going to have more of this.
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by seer View Post
                        It is still homosexual rape by definition.
                        No, it absolutely is not. "Homosexual" refers to an attraction to people of the same sex. If these rapes were done based on power/dominance rather than lust, it by definition isn't homosexual. It's simply male-on-male, and there remains no reason to think that allowing homosexual soldiers to serve would worsen a rape problem that isn't based on homosexuality. Especially if you're implying that they're somehow more likely to rape.
                        Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                        I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kristian Joensen View Post
                          So seer, are you for banning homosexuals from "serving" in the military?
                          Completely! Though as a former Marine, I did serve with a couple of guys who were gay - I never had a personal problem with them but I tried not to shower with them.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by square_peg View Post
                            No, it absolutely is not. "Homosexual" refers to an attraction to people of the same sex. If these rapes were done based on power/dominance rather than lust, it by definition isn't homosexual. It's simply male-on-male, and there remains no reason to think that allowing homosexual soldiers to serve would worsen a rape problem that isn't based on homosexuality. Especially if you're implying that they're somehow more likely to rape.
                            That is just stupid. It is a homosexual act if a man rapes another man. The motivation is immaterial. It is lust and power.
                            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by seer View Post
                              That is just stupid. It is a homosexual act if a man rapes another man. The motivation is immaterial. It is lust and power.
                              So you're letting your preconceived biases and prejudices override facts like the actual definition of the word "homosexual." How typical.

                              If straight men raped other men to show dominance, it's not homosexual, precisely because there ISN'T any lust involved. And even if you want to re-define "homosexual" to include those types of rapes, that's far different from saying that men who are actually homosexual are a serious threat to rape.
                              Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                              I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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