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βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by lao tzu View Post....
More directly, those billions are the product of an over-ripe imagination, unlike the actual trillions in fossil fuel resources controlled by the folks who promote those imaginings.
Just by the way, trillions are bigger than billions. By quite a bit. Logic wins again.
To say that "trillions" are "controlled" by the folks who promote these "imaginings" is a grossly misleading statement, because the implication is that "trillions" are devoted to funding the research of scientists who are skeptical of catastrophic AGW ― in comparison to documented billions devoted to funding research promoting catastrophic AGW.
Yes, trillions are controlled by fossil fuel companies; however, almost all of that money is used to provide fuel for public and private transportation, and electricity for public utilities.
I would bet that the fossil fuel companies give more money to environmental organizations than to scientists who are skeptical of catastrophic AGW ― much much more.
From Forbes:
As the Wall Street Journal observed on Feb. 21, while Heartland’s budget for the NIPCC this year totals $388,000, that compares to $6.5 million for the UN’s IPCC, and $2.5 billion that President Obama’s budget commits for research into “the global changes that have resulted primarily from global over-dependence on fossil fuels.” That demonstrates how an ounce of truth can overcome a tidal wave of falsehood.
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostI've never listened to him other than what was necessary to follow back on a story he's hyped. He's not just wrong. It's too calculated for that.
Just for example, no non-independent journalist could have said a word against Sandra Fluke or free birth control without being immediately fired and blacklisted from further employment by the HR gynocracy.
There's a long list of similar stories where little more than the names were accurate.
Never trust the honesty of the opinions of someone who makes $70 million a year to have opinions people want to listen to.
That's too much money to just let go with your feelings.
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Originally posted by John Reece View PostThat is not "logic", lao tzu ― far from it.
To say that "trillions" are "controlled" by the folks who promote these "imaginings" is a grossly misleading statement, because the implication is that "trillions" are devoted to funding the research of scientists who are skeptical of catastrophic AGW ― in comparison to documented billions devoted to funding research promoting catastrophic AGW.
Yes, trillions are controlled by fossil fuel companies; however, almost all of that money is used to provide fuel for public and private transportation, and electricity for public utilities.
I would bet that the fossil fuel companies give more money to environmental organizations than to scientists who are skeptical of catastrophic AGW ― much much more.
From Forbes:
As the Wall Street Journal observed on Feb. 21, while Heartland’s budget for the NIPCC this year totals $388,000, that compares to $6.5 million for the UN’s IPCC, and $2.5 billion that President Obama’s budget commits for research into “the global changes that have resulted primarily from global over-dependence on fossil fuels.” That demonstrates how an ounce of truth can overcome a tidal wave of falsehood.
However, it occurs to me that what was really meant by lao tzu's "logic" may have been that, whereas fossil fuel companies spend trillions of dollars to provide economical transportation and electrical power, on the one hand; on the other hand, international and national governments only spend billions of dollars ― not to better understand the truth of science re climate, but rather ― to wage a political war against economical transportation and electrical power, without which nations will either remain in a state of poverty (in the case of poor, undeveloped countries); or, will be plunged into poverty (in the case of heretofore prosperous countries).
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostNah, that's just you. It's entirely possible Rush believes every word he says. But I like to give folks the benefit of the doubt.
Wow, after slamming him and accusing him of... you're giving him the benefit of the doubt?
Originally posted by lao tzu View PostNever trust the honesty of the opinions of someone who makes $70 million a year to have opinions people want to listen to. That's too much money to just let go with your feelings.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Wow, after slamming him and accusing him of... you're giving him the benefit of the doubt?
What a perverted sense of humor you have, Jesse! Benefit of the doubt, indeed!
Enter Sandra Fluke.
Rush's character told some lies about her.
Rush's character wanted to see her naked, doing the dirty.
That's giving him the benefit of the doubt.
The alternative would be that he really is that character.
The alternative would be that he really does run after random women with a mix of vicious lies and misogyny. But that's a tale best left to his four ex-wives. Even then, sometimes actors bring their characters home with them, which rarely bodes well for domestic tranquility. That's what you get when you marry an actor.
I take a pretty consistent line that we are all responsible for checking the facts. Rush doesn't do that for you.
That's not his role.
As ever, Jesse
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Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
Absolutely.
He's a performer.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostHe's a performer. As part of his performance, he says things that aren't true.
So does every actor on stage or screen. Some of the characters played by those actors aren't the kind you'd like to have dating your daughter. Rush's character isn't the kind you'd like to have knowing the name of your daughter. And his performances include audience participation.
Enter a distraction from the main post to cover the fact that I lost so badly on that main post
Rush's character told some lies about her.
Rush's character wanted to see her naked, doing the dirty.
That's giving him the benefit of the doubt.
The alternative would be that he really is that character.
The alternative would be that he really does run after random women with a mix of vicious lies and misogyny. But that's a tale best left to his four ex-wives. Even then, sometimes actors bring their characters home with them, which rarely bodes well for domestic tranquility. That's what you get when you marry an actor.
I take a pretty consistent line that we are all responsible for checking the facts. Rush doesn't do that for you.
That's not his role.
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View PostLooks like they threw this young lady under the bus so that they could stonewall usThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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