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*Sputter* WHAT???? James Brady's Death a HOMICIDE???

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  • #16
    Seems pretty simple. If he was insane when he shot Reagan, then he was insane when he shot Brady. They can't argue he was insane and sane at the same time. He was already judged insane so that's pretty much it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      Seems pretty simple. If he was insane when he shot Reagan, then he was insane when he shot Brady. They can't argue he was insane and sane at the same time. He was already judged insane so that's pretty much it.
      Zombie pirate from alternate reality asks, "Don't your lawyers follow logic, too?"

      No, they don't.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        Seems pretty simple. If he was insane when he shot Reagan, then he was insane when he shot Brady. They can't argue he was insane and sane at the same time. He was already judged insane so that's pretty much it.
        Separate trials - and prosecution never argued he was insane. Jury A's findings aren't binding on Jury B.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
          Separate trials - and prosecution never argued he was insane. Jury A's findings aren't binding on Jury B.
          But the verdict will be brought in as evidence. And the fact that he has been in a nuthouse ever since.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            But the verdict will be brought in as evidence. And the fact that he has been in a nuthouse ever since.
            Evidence that the jury can weigh as they see fit. Prosecution will argue - in the unlikely event this goes to trial - that the first jury was mistaken. And since sane people have been mistakenly committed, the mere fact he was committed doesn't prove the jury correct.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
              Evidence that the jury can weigh as they see fit. Prosecution will argue - in the unlikely event this goes to trial - that the first jury was mistaken. And since sane people have been mistakenly committed, the mere fact he was committed doesn't prove the jury correct.
              But the doctors will.

              Or maybe they are trying to get the first verdict cancelled and then toss him in regular prison instead of the hospital by claiming he was sane when he shot Reagan to. It is going to be a very hard thing to do.

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              • #22
                I doubt they even bother. Unless he is likely to see the outside of a mental hospital in a meaningful way, it's just a waste of time, money and effort.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                  Unless he is likely to see the outside of a mental hospital in a meaningful way, it's just a waste of time, money and effort.
                  Since when has that stopped anyone?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    Since when has that stopped anyone?

                    yup. just another political football to kick around. It's all marketing. Get gun control in the news again. whether they win or not.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                      Since when has that stopped anyone?
                      Stop being sensible!!!! This is about law and legal stuff - common sense need not apply!
































                      I'm kidding...
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                        I'm kidding...
                        But at least partly accurate none-the-less.
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