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  • ESPN suspends Stephen A. Smith after domestic abuse remarks

    ESPN on Tuesday announced a one-week suspension for one of its most controversial commentators, Stephen A. Smith, in the wake of his widely-criticized remarks about domestic abuse that referred to possible "provocation" by victims.

    The move came one day after Smith appeared on his ESPN2 talk show "First Take" and profusely apologized.

    Smith's original remarks were shown on "First Take" last Friday. He was discussing the assault charge against Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice, who was indicted in March for striking his then-girlfriend and dragging her out of an elevator, and the leniency shown by the National Football League, which suspended Rice for only two games.

    He said that while men "have no business putting your hands on a woman," he had tried to tell women in his family, "Let's make sure we don't do anything to provoke wrong actions." He also referred to "elements of provocation" and implied that women should "do what we can to try to prevent the situation from happening."

    During his apology on Monday morning, Smith acknowledged that "my words came across that it is somehow a woman's fault."
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    He didn't say anything directly blaming the girl and apologized. This wasn't necessary, as far as I can see.

    Had he really blamed the victim, I'd be of a different opinion

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
      He didn't say anything directly blaming the girl and apologized. This wasn't necessary, as far as I can see.

      Had he really blamed the victim, I'd be of a different opinion
      My problem with the story is that for quite some time now, the leftist feminazis have demanded that women not be treated as anything less than the equal of man in every arena. So, why are they in such an uproar over Mr. Smith's statement of (to them) fact that someone else can instigate another person to violence, regardless of their sex? What he said was absolutely true in the expanded context that he was mentioning. People SHOULD "make sure we don't do anything to provoke wrong actions". There are many cases of domestic violence where BOTH parties were arrested for assault because both parties instigated the other to violence. I find it hypocritical that the leftists want full equality for women, except when they can play the victim card, and then, and ONLY THEN, are women portrayed as powerless and helpless.

      From where I stand, I agree with Stephen A. Smith. You should not hit a woman. But you shouldn't hit a man either. Unless you are sufficiently provoked like this woman was
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • #4
        Typical over reaction.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
          .... the leftist feminazis ..... equal of man in every arena.
          Blimey! The word you were searching for is ‘feminists’ who are men or women advocating equal social, political, legal and economic rights for women. It is not about putting women on the race track or the boxing ring with men for obvious reasons and for the same reasons it is very ungallant for a bloke to strike a woman under any circumstances. If the aggression is too much, just walk away.
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          • #6
            Too often seen men get a hiding because of the rule that a man should never hit a woman. Now conclude, when a person is attacked, that person is not dealing with a man or a woman, but with an assailant.
            sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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            • #7
              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
              Blimey! The word you were searching for is ‘feminists’ who are men or women advocating equal social, political, legal and economic rights for women.
              In other words, you hold a contradictory, nonsensical worldview.

              It is not about putting women on the race track or the boxing ring with men for obvious reasons and for the same reasons it is very ungallant for a bloke to strike a woman under any circumstances. If the aggression is too much, just walk away.
              Violence for sport is a whole different animal from violence due to some offense caused or perceived. Feminists demand that women not be struck in situations in which you would strike a man (regardless of the man's physical parity). This is not social equality, it's social subservience. Women should be protected from things that would get a man's face bashed in because they have a vagina.

              If feminism was about equality then feminists would simply stop talking about violence against women. Since it's not about equality they don't.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                If feminism was about equality then feminists would simply stop talking about violence against women. Since it's not about equality they don't.
                Try using a dictionary. You may be confusing feminism with sexism.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  Try using a dictionary. You may be confusing feminism with sexism.
                  Oooh, it's a combo of number two and number three on the checklist of standard feminist lines--"You just don't know what feminism is!" and "Look at the dictionary definition!" Now all you need is to say is that Not All Feminists Are Like That and you'll have the trifecta.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                    Try using a dictionary. You may be confusing feminism with sexism.
                    In general conservatives to have this nasty tendency to compare what you're actually saying about things to how they're actually working out in practice.

                    It is not about putting women on the race track or the boxing ring with men for obvious reasons
                    Yes, it most certainly is. And on the battlefield, and in the submarines...

                    and for the same reasons it is very ungallant for a bloke to strike a woman under any circumstances. If the aggression is too much, just walk away.


                    This video may have been edited in post-production by prurient youtubers

                    Not a thing that Connery said was out of line. Women have a constant temptation to use their native skill with words and relationships to continually one-up themselves and their pet causes in a thousand tiny ways, and usually the only way to effectively get across that they've crossed a line is either physical or a level of verbal that's usually not appropriate for public settings. And 'walking away' isn't really an option in a whole lot of cases.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                      Blimey! The word you were searching for is ‘feminists’
                      I chose the correct term.

                      who are men or women advocating equal social, political, legal and economic rights for women.
                      which is the gist of what I said

                      It is not about putting women on the race track or the boxing ring with men for obvious reasons
                      Yes it is...


                      Source: http://www.insideyouthsports.org/2011/10/another-reason-why-competitive-girls.html

                      The Women’s Sports Foundation supports a position that girls and boys should be encouraged to compete with and against each other in sports whenever possible:

                      "Prior to puberty, there is no gender-based physiological reason to separate females and males in sports competition. In fact, research demonstrates that girls who participate with boys in youth sports are more resilient. ... After puberty, coeducational competition should be encouraged at all levels where there are rules that require equal numbers of females and males on both teams and also rules that maximize fair competition between the sexes."

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                      and for the same reasons it is very ungallant for a bloke to strike a woman under any circumstances.
                      It is "ungallant" to strike ANYONE under any circumstance, except when sufficiently provoked. If a woman is assaulting my wife, I can guarantee I'm going to stomp her into the ground just as hard as if a man were assaulting her.

                      If the aggression is too much, just walk away.
                      In some instances, such as protecting a weaker person, walking away may not be an option. Hence, sufficient provocation.
                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      Stephen R. Donaldson

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