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Originally posted by seer View PostDo you also think that mostly naked gay men feigning sexual acts in public parades is equally disgusting?
The fact is political satire is as American as apple pie.
And when I use Communist or Fascist it is completely appropriate since they too, like the Obama Justice Dept in this case, use the government to attempt to squash political dissent. Just like what they used the IRS in the last election cycle to do.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostLearn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostAre their actions motivated by hatred?
False. Political satire existed long before America even gained its independence.
That's not what "communist" means.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostThere's a new scandal every week. There was a point when I thought the administration might be only morally bankrupt, not outright incompetent. Turns out it's both.
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Originally posted by seer View PostSure, they could be - purposely flaunting social norms.
Was the float done out of hatred or concern for his country?
No kidding, I don't care when it began, the fact is it has a long tradition in our country.
So what, it was part of Communist and Fascist regimes to use the government to stop political dissent. Just like Obama...
Neighbor: "Good morning, seer. The air sure is fresh today, isn't it?"
seer: "Keep that commie air away from me!"
Neighbor: "Huh? Wha--did you just call AIR 'communist?'"
seer: "You heard me!"
Neighbor: "Do you actually know what 'communist' even means? It doesn't make any sense to say that air is communist!"
seer: "Who cares, air was used by communists to supply their dirty diseased brain cells with nutrients. It's commie."
seer: *passes outLast edited by fm93; 07-17-2014, 01:18 PM.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostIt was almost certainly done out of hatred for Obama, since it made him and his name the main subject.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostDefiance isn't the equivalent of hatred.
It was almost certainly done out of hatred for Obama, since it made him and his name the main subject.
Then don't claim that it's as American as apple pie when it clearly isn't American in origin or exclusivity. I don't know if you realize this, but words have these things called meanings, which happen to matter.
So because communist groups used it, you call it communist. By that logic, I can easily envision this conversation taking place...Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostIn your opinion, can Obama be the target of satire without it being done out of hatred?
Originally posted by seer View PostOk so the homosexuals are defiant but this guy is a hater? Perhaps he is merely being defiant too. Do you know his motives?
Oh get off your semantic high horse. Political satire is just as American as apple pie. I never said it was exclusively American, and more than apple pie is exclusively American.
Sorry, if you use the tactics of the Communists and Fascists I will call you a Commie or Fascist. I'm not going to stop Homer...Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Nothing wrong with hating Obama, it's practically a civic duty.
"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostIn your opinion, can Obama be the target of satire without it being done out of hatred? Or is he completely off-limits?
The fact is that making fun of our politicians including presidents is a long standing American tradition and anyone who has a conniption fit over it needs to get a life.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe folks who laughed the hardest at "humorous" attacks on Bush no matter how nasty or vicious are the ones who show the most indignant outrage when someone makes fun of Obama. Conversely, the reverse also seems to be the case. Those upset with the way Bush was treated seem to chuckle the most at jokes made at Obama's expense.
The fact is that making fun of our politicians including presidents is a long standing American tradition and anyone who has a conniption fit over it needs to get a life.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostNothing wrong with hating Obama, it's practically a civic duty.
I fail to see in validity in your claim here
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostHe made a ghastly representation of Obama that makes the man look more like a monster than a human being. I think that's essentially wearing motives on one's sleeves.
Whoops, I meant to include "and in typicality." Political satire isn't typically American either.
So you won't object if people call every instance of ignorance in the world "conservative," since plenty of conservatives have been stunningly ignorant?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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