Some Emily Litella Moments for the Climatistas

[John Reece]

Remember that West Antarctic ice sheet whose melting we were told a few weeks ago was the sure harbinger of climate change doom? (Never mind that little detail that it would take 200-800 years to melt.) Well, according a study out in the current issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (read the abstract here) the ice sheet’s retreat is attributable to a geothermal activity. (In other words, volcanic activity.) The abstract, not to mention the study itself, is typically jargon filled. Here’s a bit of the press release from the University of Texas, where the study’s authors work:

[seer]

Remember that West Antarctic ice sheet whose melting we were told a few weeks ago was the sure harbinger of climate change doom? (Never mind that little detail that it would take 200-800 years to melt.) Well, according a study out in the current issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (read the abstract here) the ice sheet’s retreat is attributable to a geothermal activity. (In other words, volcanic activity.) The abstract, not to mention the study itself, is typically jargon filled. Here’s a bit of the press release from the University of Texas, where the study’s authors work:

I mentioned this a while back to Sylas and he assured me that geothermal / volcanic activity had little effect.

[Catholicity]

I think that anytime climate change is discussed natural phenomenon: especially geothermal activity needs to be considered first as this seems to be the strongest source of changes so far. Human activity seems to contribute some but less than Earth's own internal phenomenon.

I wonder if someone could explain how earth went from a volcanic covered near life hating planet to flourishing with lush green plants, animals etc...EXCEPT via climate change.

[One Bad Pig]

I think that anytime climate change is discussed natural phenomenon: especially geothermal activity needs to be considered first as this seems to be the strongest source of changes so far. Human activity seems to contribute some but less than Earth's own internal phenomenon.

I wonder if someone could explain how earth went from a volcanic covered near life hating planet to flourishing with lush green plants, animals etc...EXCEPT via climate change.

Keep in mind that impact due to animals/nature is okay. Impact due to humans is bad. Even though humans are nothing more than animals.

[Catholicity]

Keep in mind that impact due to animals/nature is okay. Impact due to humans is bad. Even though humans are nothing more than animals.

In some ways I feel like there is a "hidden agenda" by the screaming alarmists and that is to convince people that all humans are evil and thus the human race must be eliminated. I know it sounds REALLY warped, and it could be, but when they start on things like population control and other weird measures I just sort of look and go okay.....really....no.

[Just Some Dude]

I don't doubt that that is the agenda for some of them. Of course, the hypocrites would refuse to give their own life for the cause of "cleansing Mother Nature." Would have to be someone else who suffered.

[lilpixieofterror]

In some ways I feel like there is a "hidden agenda" by the screaming alarmists and that is to convince people that all humans are evil and thus the human race must be eliminated. I know it sounds REALLY warped, and it could be, but when they start on things like population control and other weird measures I just sort of look and go okay.....really....no.

I personally think it is more about money and keeping it flowing than anything like that.

[John Reece]

POSTED ON JUNE 10, 2014 BY STEVEN HAYWARD IN CLIMATE

CLIMATE CHANGE: IS THERE ANYTHING IT CAN’T DO?

Forgive a second post today on the tedious subject of global warming climate change, but the absurdities are piling up so fast that they’re clogging up my browser tabs. As regular readers know, we often direct attention to The Warmlist of all the things attributed to climate change (currently ranging from AIDS to zoonotic diseases). Add one more to the list: climate change is preventing alien visits to earth. I’m. Not. Kidding.

[Teallaura]

Hmmm, so we can prevent alien invasion by tossing a few logs on the proverbial fire?


I wonder if it's too late to buy a coal mine?

[Jedidiah]

In some ways I feel like there is a "hidden agenda" by the screaming alarmists and that is to convince people that all humans are evil and thus the human race must be eliminated. I know it sounds REALLY warped, and it could be, but when they start on things like population control and other weird measures I just sort of look and go okay.....really....no.

They do not want to eliminate all human life, just most. Those left will live without any of what we consider normal.

[Epoetker]

I seriously doubt they actually plan that far ahead. Shouting slogans and demanding power based on slim justifications for an apocalyptic vision simply feels good, especially if the rest of government and society is paying you in money and attention to do it. When the money dries up, the field will go tumble-weedy in a hurry.

In completely unrelated news,

The candidate who did not lie in his campaign material, did not attempt to disenfranchise voters at several county conventions, did not help install a paid advisor as party executive director, did not headline a retreat discussing how to effectively marginalize his party’s base, and did not employ a crooked, Tammany Hall thug as chief adviser just won, and the Republican Party, having chosen the path Cantor exemplified, has the opportunity to be a more representative party and to change course before November.

As does the scientific establishment. If it doesn't, I will shed no tears at its demise, and will gladly destroy it and scatter its funding to the four winds for the sake of a better future. Whether in politics or in science, you forget who you represent (and who chooses you to represent themselves) at your own peril.

[John Reece]

University of Texas Research Demolishes Main Rationale for Climate Alarmism

WOAI's Michael Board reports researcher Duncan Young says the Thwaites Glacier is indeed melting, but it is not melting due to global warming, but do to the fact that an active volcano exists directly under the glacier.

"Looking at the radar data, we can find things that look like volcanoes, little volcanoes, scattered under the ice," Hunter told 1200 WOAI news.

He says the findings 'significantly change the understanding of conditions beneath the West Antarctic ice.'

Photographs of the collapsing glacier were ubiquitous over the past month, as several reports were issued to support the Obama Administration’s push for limits on greenhouse gas emissions from coal fired power plants.

In fact, a leading climate scientist said just last month that 'unabated climate warming of several degrees over the next century is likely to speed up the collapse of West Antarctica, but it could also trigger irreversible retreat of marine-based sectors of east Antarctica. Whether we should do something about it is simply a matter of common sense, and the time to act is now, Antarctica is not waiting for us.'

But Hunter says technology had not allowed scientists to look under the ice, and he says what researchers found there was completely unexpected, and the volcanic activity, and not man made global warming, is responsible for the melting of the glacier, and for the sea level rise which had also been attributed to global warming.

"This melting of the underside of the ice is leading to a raise of an inch or two every year," he said.

Hunter says the magma from the volcanoes is distributed over a wider area and is much hotter than previously assumed.

Another climate scientist wrote last month, "the melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet has been cited by green activists as proof that man made global warming is dangerous, and real, and unless we act now to rein in carbon dioxide emissions we'll soon resemble Waterworld.'

Read more: http://www.woai.com/articles/woai-local-news-sponsored-by-five-star-cleaners-119078/university-of-texas-research-demolishes-main-12450202#ixzz34LQGqqKc

[Teallaura]

We could pass some laws to regulate volcanoes. Enforcement might get tricky... and hot...

[One Bad Pig]

We could pass some laws to regulate volcanoes. Enforcement might get tricky... and hot...

Didn't stop King Canute from trying much the same thing.

[rogue06]

Didn't stop King Canute from trying much the same thing.

Um, the story surrounding Canute (or Cnut) ordering that tide should not come in has been greatly misunderstood.

Henry of Huntingdon provided the first written account of this incident in his Historia Anglorum ("The History of the English People") which was first published in the early 12^th century.

According to Henry, while King Canute did indeed order the waves not to break upon his land after they did he proclaimed: "All the inhabitants of the world should know that the power of kings is vain and trivial, and that none is worthy the name of king but He whose command the heaven, earth and sea obey by eternal laws"

Henry then added "Therefore King Canute never afterwards placed the crown on his head, but above a picture of the Lord nailed to the cross, turning it forever into a means to praise God, the great king."

Thus it appears that instead of arrogantly expecting that his decree could hold back the tide this account reveals that Canute set out to demonstrate that the tide would come in regardless of what a king ordered.

IOW, Henry's account wasn't a testimony to Canute's arrogant pride or vanity but rather to his good sense and Christian humility.



On the opposite end is Herodotus' depiction of the Persian king Xerxes ordering that the Dardanelles Strait (or Hellespont) be whipped 300 times and shackles dropped into them as a mark of enslavement after a storm thwarted his first attempt to cross them during his invasion of Greece in 480 BC. If true that was a king who thought he could actually command the seas.