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  • Federal officials stockpiled munitions, sought ‘heat ray’ device before clearing Lafa

    Per a named, first party source.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...c64_story.html


    Hours before law enforcement forcibly cleared protesters from Lafayette Square in early June amid protests over the police killing of George Floyd, federal officials began to stockpile ammunition and seek devices that could emit deafening sounds and make anyone within range feel like their skin is on fire, according to an Army National Guard major who was there.

    D.C. National Guard Maj. Adam D. DeMarco told lawmakers that defense officials were searching for crowd control technology deemed too unpredictable to use in war zones and had authorized the transfer of about 7,000 rounds of ammunition to the D.C. Armory as protests against police use of force and racial injustice roiled Washington.

    In sworn testimony, shared this week with The Washington Post, DeMarco provided his account as part of an ongoing investigation into law enforcement and military officers’ use of force against D.C. protesters.

    But DeMarco’s account contradicts the administration’s claims that protesters were violent, tear gas was never used and demonstrators were given ample warning to disperse — a legal requirement before police move to clear a crowd. His testimony also offers a glimpse into the equipment and weaponry federal forces had — and others that they sought — during the early days of protests that have continued for more than 100 days in the nation’s capital.

    DeMarco, who provided his account as a whistleblower, was the senior-most D.C. National Guard officer on the ground that day and served as a liaison between the National Guard and U.S. Park Police.


    Just before noon on June 1, the Defense Department’s top military police officer in the Washington region sent an email to officers in the D.C. National Guard. It asked whether the unit had a Long Range Acoustic Device, also known as an LRAD, or a microwave-like weapon called the Active Denial System, which was designed by the military to make people feel like their skin is burning when in range of its invisible rays.


    Laws and court rulings require police to give demonstrators repeated, clear warnings of officers’ intentions to escalate and to allow people adequate time and avenues to disperse peacefully.

    DeMarco told lawmakers he was standing about 30 yards from the announcer but could barely make out the order. The chanting crowd, which was even farther from the officer with the megaphone, did not appear to hear the warnings, DeMarco said.


    Just sickening. What have we become?

  • #2
    Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
    What have we become?
    You have become a nation where the Attorney General believes that, other than slavery, coronavirus closures are "the greatest intrusion on civil liberties in American history".
    "The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." - P. J. O'Rourke

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
      Per a named, first party source.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...c64_story.html


      Hours before law enforcement forcibly cleared protesters from Lafayette Square in early June amid protests over the police killing of George Floyd, federal officials began to stockpile ammunition and seek devices that could emit deafening sounds and make anyone within range feel like their skin is on fire, according to an Army National Guard major who was there.

      D.C. National Guard Maj. Adam D. DeMarco told lawmakers that defense officials were searching for crowd control technology deemed too unpredictable to use in war zones and had authorized the transfer of about 7,000 rounds of ammunition to the D.C. Armory as protests against police use of force and racial injustice roiled Washington.

      In sworn testimony, shared this week with The Washington Post, DeMarco provided his account as part of an ongoing investigation into law enforcement and military officers’ use of force against D.C. protesters.

      But DeMarco’s account contradicts the administration’s claims that protesters were violent, tear gas was never used and demonstrators were given ample warning to disperse — a legal requirement before police move to clear a crowd. His testimony also offers a glimpse into the equipment and weaponry federal forces had — and others that they sought — during the early days of protests that have continued for more than 100 days in the nation’s capital.

      DeMarco, who provided his account as a whistleblower, was the senior-most D.C. National Guard officer on the ground that day and served as a liaison between the National Guard and U.S. Park Police.


      Just before noon on June 1, the Defense Department’s top military police officer in the Washington region sent an email to officers in the D.C. National Guard. It asked whether the unit had a Long Range Acoustic Device, also known as an LRAD, or a microwave-like weapon called the Active Denial System, which was designed by the military to make people feel like their skin is burning when in range of its invisible rays.


      Laws and court rulings require police to give demonstrators repeated, clear warnings of officers’ intentions to escalate and to allow people adequate time and avenues to disperse peacefully.

      DeMarco told lawmakers he was standing about 30 yards from the announcer but could barely make out the order. The chanting crowd, which was even farther from the officer with the megaphone, did not appear to hear the warnings, DeMarco said.


      Just sickening. What have we become?
      A nation of rioters and looters in major Democrat-controlled cities that have completely hamstrung and demonized law enforcement.
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • #4
        The objection "deemed too unpredictable to use in war zones" is odd that the police regularly employ equipment that is outright banned from use in was such as tear gas and hollow point bullets.

        Likewise the whine that something has "deafening sounds and make anyone within range feel like their skin is on fire." Anyone who has ever experienced tear gas can tell you it feels like your eyes are blistering.

        Sounds like the author is one of those who thinks hugs and cuddles can defuse a violent situation.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post


          D.C. National Guard Maj. Adam D. DeMarco told lawmakers that defense officials were searching for crowd control technology deemed too unpredictable to use in war zones and had authorized the transfer of about 7,000 rounds of ammunition to the D.C. Armory as protests against police use of force and racial injustice roiled Washington.
          I guess this reporter hasn't paid attention to the news, and has no clue what they're talking about.

          Just from last year:
          SAN DIEGO, Aug. 08, 2019 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- LRAD Corporation (NASDAQ: LRAD), a global leader in critical communication systems, today announced it has received a follow-on $14.8 million order from the U.S. Army (“Army”). The Army is purchasing LRAD 450XL acoustic hailing device (“AHD”) systems and accessories for deployment with active duty, Reserve and National Guard units. This is the Company’s fourth order from the Army’s $110 million AHD program. Three LRAD 500X program orders were previously delivered.

          “This is the Company’s largest domestic order to date,” said Richard S. Danforth, Chief Executive Officer of LRAD Corporation. “Further, we anticipate another LRAD 450XL order under this program later this quarter and additional purchases in subsequent years to meet the Army’s long-term AHD requirements.”


          “The LRAD 450XL and LRAD 500X are the only AHDs qualified for deployment by the Army,” continued Mr. Danforth. “After extensive testing, our smaller, lighter LRAD 450XL was selected to meet the Army’s critical communication and scalable escalation of force requirements. We’re working with other branches of the U.S. military and our partners overseas to expand LRAD 450XL use within the Department of Defense and throughout international defense forces.”
          https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...rmy-Award.html
          Last edited by Gondwanaland; 09-17-2020, 08:54 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
            Per a named, first party source.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...c64_story.html


            Hours before law enforcement forcibly cleared protesters from Lafayette Square in early June amid protests over the police killing of George Floyd, federal officials began to stockpile ammunition and seek devices that could emit deafening sounds and make anyone within range feel like their skin is on fire, according to an Army National Guard major who was there.

            D.C. National Guard Maj. Adam D. DeMarco told lawmakers that defense officials were searching for crowd control technology deemed too unpredictable to use in war zones and had authorized the transfer of about 7,000 rounds of ammunition to the D.C. Armory as protests against police use of force and racial injustice roiled Washington.

            In sworn testimony, shared this week with The Washington Post, DeMarco provided his account as part of an ongoing investigation into law enforcement and military officers’ use of force against D.C. protesters.

            But DeMarco’s account contradicts the administration’s claims that protesters were violent, tear gas was never used and demonstrators were given ample warning to disperse — a legal requirement before police move to clear a crowd. His testimony also offers a glimpse into the equipment and weaponry federal forces had — and others that they sought — during the early days of protests that have continued for more than 100 days in the nation’s capital.

            DeMarco, who provided his account as a whistleblower, was the senior-most D.C. National Guard officer on the ground that day and served as a liaison between the National Guard and U.S. Park Police.


            Just before noon on June 1, the Defense Department’s top military police officer in the Washington region sent an email to officers in the D.C. National Guard. It asked whether the unit had a Long Range Acoustic Device, also known as an LRAD, or a microwave-like weapon called the Active Denial System, which was designed by the military to make people feel like their skin is burning when in range of its invisible rays.


            Laws and court rulings require police to give demonstrators repeated, clear warnings of officers’ intentions to escalate and to allow people adequate time and avenues to disperse peacefully.

            DeMarco told lawmakers he was standing about 30 yards from the announcer but could barely make out the order. The chanting crowd, which was even farther from the officer with the megaphone, did not appear to hear the warnings, DeMarco said.


            Just sickening. What have we become?
            You seem to have missed this little sentence: "Federal police ultimately were unable to obtain a heat ray device"

            So this is a nothing burger.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
              I guess this reporter hasn't paid attention to the news, and has no clue what they're talking about.

              Just from last year:
              https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...rmy-Award.html
              The "too unpredictable" item may have been the "heat ray" which seems to be a scare tactic. It's unpredictable because there are a ton of things (weather, clothing, etc.) that can unpredictably reduce the effectiveness.

              So in other words, the ADS can't be relied upon to be a deterrent in a warzone. A far cry form the impression left by the testimony.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                You seem to have missed this little sentence: "Federal police ultimately were unable to obtain a heat ray device"

                So this is a nothing burger.
                I didn't miss that. The request is the issue. As is the fact that the protestors were not properly warned of the imminent police action.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                  A nation of rioters and looters in major Democrat-controlled cities that have completely hamstrung and demonized law enforcement.
                  The protestors in DC were not rioting. There is plenty of video from that protest.

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                  • #10
                    140db peak and 137db continuous for that sound monster. Might as well call it the "hearing damage" machine if they start putting narrow band frequencies in the peak sensitive area of human hearing.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
                      The protestors in DC were not rioting. There is plenty of video from that protest.
                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...79a_video.html


                      Wanna retract that statement?
                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      Stephen R. Donaldson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        The night before Trump's walking over to to St. John's Church "peaceful protesters" set a fire in the basement (and IIRC another next to the building) in an attempt to torch it.

                        Peaceful protests are not marked by arson.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                          The protests in questions were on June 1, not May 31.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
                            The protests in questions were on June 1, not May 31.
                            They were the same protest. They lasted over a week. Daytime June 1 was only one part.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                              They were the same protest. They lasted over a week. Daytime June 1 was only one part.
                              Composition / division fallacy.

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