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  • #46
    Originally posted by seer View Post
    I have no idea what your question actually is - do you even know?
    Light/good/justice always prevails. It is the basis of every folk tale I can think of. Your belief therefore holds that your side will win. Wherein lies the problem?

    All you need to do is sit back and wait, as according to your belief your deity has everything under control.
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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    • #47
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      We know what it means in the New Testament concerning Mary.
      You know about a mistranslation in the Septuagint from the Hebrew.
      "It ain't necessarily so
      The things that you're liable
      To read in the Bible
      It ain't necessarily so
      ."

      Sportin' Life
      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
        Light/good/justice always prevails. It is the basis of every folk tale I can think of. Your belief therefore holds that your side will win. Wherein lies the problem?

        All you need to do is sit back and wait, as according to your belief your deity has everything under control.
        Is that what the New Testament teaches? That we should just sit back? What if the deity decided to give creatures the power to choose their own fate?
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #49
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          You are again trying to turn the argument around. Again most Christians believe in degrees of demonic influence, to you that is not rational
          No it is not rational to believe in demonic influence.
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • #50
            Originally posted by seer View Post
            Is that what the New Testament teaches? That we should just sit back? What if the deity decided to give creatures the power to choose their own fate?
            Is the deity not in control? One might contend It is not, given that so many people [apparently] believe in demonic influence and/or that demons [i.e. malign entities] are actively involved in this world.
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
              You know about a mistranslated in the Septuagint from the Hebrew.
              There is no mistranslated,

              "Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?” And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God."

              She does not use the word virgin.
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                No it is not rational to believe in demonic influence.
                Again, what law of logic does that violate - be specific please.
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                  Is the deity not in control? One might contend It is not, given that so many people [apparently] believe in demonic influence and/or that demons [i.e. malign entities] are actively involved in this world.
                  No, God could have absolute power but decide not to exercise said power, totally, to allow for genuine creaturely freedom...
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    There is no mistranslated,

                    "Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?” And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God."

                    She does not use the word virgin.
                    The Septuagint [mis]translates "almah" in Isaiah 7.14 into παρθένος [parthenos]. There is a Hebrew word for "virgin" but the author of Isaiah does not use it.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

                    Comment


                    • #55
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      Again, what law of logic does that violate - be specific please.
                      Once again, what law of logic supports a belief in supernatural entities?
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by seer View Post
                        No, God could have absolute power but decide not to exercise said power, totally, to allow for genuine creaturely freedom...
                        That is all rather speculative "could" and "but decide not to". What evidence do you have to support your comments?
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

                        Comment


                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                          The Septuagint [mis]translates "almah" in Isaiah 7.14 into παρθένος [parthenos]. There is a Hebrew word for "virgin" but the author of Isaiah does not use it.
                          Mary never calls herself a virgin, only that she did not know a man. Whether Isaiah 7.14 is speaking of a young woman or virgin it makes no difference to Mary's claim in two Gospels that her pregnancy did not come about by natural means.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                            That is all rather speculative "could" and "but decide not to". What evidence do you have to support your comments?
                            I gave you a reasonable possibility. That is all that is needed.

                            Once again, what law of logic supports a belief in supernatural entities?
                            You are truly one of most dishonest persons on this board, and a hypocrite. You demand and demand others to answer you yet deceptively refuse to answer a question now asked a number of times. So try to exercise some honestly and answer the question - remember you claimed that belief in a spiritual realm was not rational. You need to back that up: what law of logic does belief in the spiritual realm violate - be specific please.
                            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                              Are you Catholic?
                              With a small c.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                With a small c.
                                As in broad or wide-ranging in tastes and/or or broadminded/liberal/universal? That would make two of us.
                                "It ain't necessarily so
                                The things that you're liable
                                To read in the Bible
                                It ain't necessarily so
                                ."

                                Sportin' Life
                                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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