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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is always amusing watching atheists demand levels of evidence several magnitudes more stringent than they do for any other ancient texts.America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhenever people disagree with you CP, they all of a sudden become a troll,
someone who has no interest in the (your) truth, and so you go into personal attack mode.
Obviously HA doesn't agree with your perspective on the bible. So what? Disagreement with you, expressing ones own understanding, voicing ones own opinion, doesn't make them a troll. Calling them a troll makes you one though.
Stop Saying Stupid Stuff.gifLast edited by Cow Poke; 09-17-2020, 10:18 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's actually not true at all.
"Personal attack mode"? And you're accusing H_A of arguing with no interest in the (my) truth? That's pretty much trolling, Jimmy. Besides, she pretty much admitted she was a (though, later, tried to deny it).
Well, gee, then you calling ME a troll makes YOU one.Last edited by JimL; 09-17-2020, 11:52 PM.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostThere are some historically attested personages in Acts as there are real places. However, that likewise applies to War and Peace or Les Miserables, although the actual existence of Jean Valjean or Pierre Bezukhov is another matter. That does not imply that I am suggesting Paul is a literary construct, yet the work we know as Acts of the Apostles does read rather like an ancient Hellenistic Roman novel with lots of melodrama, a main protagonist/hero and his adventures, and clearly delineated goodies and baddies. Saul/Paul starts off as a baddie but quickly becomes a goody.
Hence as with Hugo or Tolstoy the provision of real settings and events in which protagonists are placed and the background details can be established as factual, that does not necessarily imply that the rest of the narrative is equally veracious.
It seems possible that some contemporary Jews had a less than flattering view of Paul.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWow, that's POWERFUL!!!! I'm sold!!!
The evidence shows It was possible for a girl to marry and cohabit with her husband before reaching puberty. In fact, it appears to have happened often enough to give rise to a dispute between the two leading rabbinic schools of the 1st century CE, on the subject of whether a bloodstain on the wedding night of a minor [i.e. a virgin in respect of menstruation] should be attributed to the rupture of the hymen or to her first period.
A further result of such a state of affairs was that a girl could conceive while still a “virgin” in respect of menstruation, i.e. at the moment of her first ovulation. She could thus become a “virgin mother” of several children."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View Post. HA though is a self admitted troll
What some of you clearly do not like is having your preconceived beliefs. many of which are put forward as if they are attested historical facts, being challenged. I did not introduce the topic of a virgin birth to this thread. Rogue06 has acknowledged that s/he did."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostWhat a stupid and pathetic ad hominem.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBecause you're a
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] either for the troll's amusement or a specific gain. [My emphasis].
I would suggest that definition might be applied to various individuals that I have come across on these boards.
Denigrating remarks about my alleged private life made on this thread by seer that "Probably because she didn't have a husband to train her right" and that I am "lonely and unhappy". On another thread Gondwanaland has compared me to a serial-killer with this remark“creepy serial killer-esque records of everything other people post”. Individuals making ad hominem remarks by adapting crude language. E.g. BilltheCat calling JimL an "asshat".
Making false accusations with the intent to antagonise. Both yourself, Gondwanaland, have repeatedly accused me of being a "troll", of having “already admitted it”, with no evidence from me to support your accusations. and now Littlejoe is making the same unsubstantiated accusation that I am a "self admitted troll". Gondwanaland has alleged I have made “multiple historical gaffes.” without an iota of evidence to support that allegation. However, it should be noted that Gondwanaland regularly got banned for abusive and/or offensive language in "the other place".
I recommend some of you look to the beam in your own eyes before criticising others for the mote in theirs.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou don't believe the Bible is the inspired word of God
Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post- you have no real interest in the topic other than picking fights.
However, as long as this is an open site you are going get members who do not share the unquestioning beliefs that many who post here hold."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
"Personal attack mode"? And you're accusing H_A of arguing with no interest in the (my) truth?
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBesides, she pretty much admitted she was a (though, later, tried to deny it).
I note the alacrity of many here to point out unsubstantiated accusations and/or lack of evidence when it comes to subjects they hold dear but at the same time are more than willing to make equally unsubstantiated remarks without an iota of evidence to support those remarks when it suits their purposes.
There is a word for that."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostQuote me.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Like calling me an armchair soldier when you knew no such thing?
Furthermore, my observation on your support for citizens taking the law into their own hands was premised on your comments, given that you appeared to positively relish such behaviours.
I made no personal remarks about your private life suggesting that you are "lonely and unhappy" or that you require a partner to "train" you."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I cannot find my direct quote using the phrase "armchair soldier". Do you have it?
Furthermore, my observation on your support for citizens taking the law into their own hands was premised on your comments, given that you appeared to positively relish such behaviours.
I made no personal remarks about your private life suggesting that you are "lonely and unhappy" or that you require a partner to "train" you.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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