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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Your analogy doesn't work. Trump isn't a Libertarian, and Rogan is by far not a fan of Trump's. Maddow on the other hand is blatantly for Biden and against Trump. Rogan is a centrist, and the only valid replacement would be another centrist, not any hyper-liberal.
    According to Sean he's a Sanders supporter. Maybe you two should get your stories straight.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Yep, the same Rachael Maddow who's lawyer argued in court that she deals in "rhetorical hyperbole, incapable of being proved true or false".

      Again, even if you don't respect her at least she's a journalist. That's a de facto better debate moderator than a socialist / libertarian comedian.

      And her show won an Emmy. Come on.
      Last edited by LiconaFan97; 09-15-2020, 11:30 AM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
        According to Sean he's a Sanders supporter. Maybe you two should get your stories straight.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ro...cial_Positions

        Rogan is not affiliated with any political party, but has been described as mostly having libertarian views.[82] He has described himself as being "pretty liberal" and supports gay marriage, gay rights, women's rights, recreational drug use, universal healthcare, and universal basic income, while also supporting the Second Amendment.[84][85] He has also criticized American foreign policy of military adventurism.[86] He endorsed Ron Paul in the 2012 U.S. presidential campaign[87] and Gary Johnson in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign.[88] Rogan has publicly supported Tulsi Gabbard and encouraged her to run for U.S. presidency in 2020.[89] On January 21, 2020, Rogan said he would "probably" vote for Bernie Sanders in the 2020 Democratic primary, adding, "He's been insanely consistent his entire life."[90]
        That's what
        - She

        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
        Stephen R. Donaldson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ro...cial_Positions

          Rogan is not affiliated with any political party, but has been described as mostly having libertarian views.[82] He has described himself as being "pretty liberal" and supports gay marriage, gay rights, women's rights, recreational drug use, universal healthcare, and universal basic income, while also supporting the Second Amendment.[84][85] He has also criticized American foreign policy of military adventurism.[86] He endorsed Ron Paul in the 2012 U.S. presidential campaign[87] and Gary Johnson in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign.[88] Rogan has publicly supported Tulsi Gabbard and encouraged her to run for U.S. presidency in 2020.[89] On January 21, 2020, Rogan said he would "probably" vote for Bernie Sanders in the 2020 Democratic primary, adding, "He's been insanely consistent his entire life."[90]
          Again, work out with Sean whether he supports a socialist or is actually a libertarian and get back to me. Universal basic income? Universal healthcare? Those sound like libertarian ideas to you?
          Last edited by LiconaFan97; 09-15-2020, 11:33 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
            Again, work out with Sean whether he supports a socialist or is actually a libertarian and get back to me.
            He's a Libertarian, but supported Bernie strictly because he's been consistent. There's no contradiction. Try to keep up.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
              According to Sean he's a Sanders supporter. Maybe you two should get your stories straight.
              I'm just saying this is what he said, in fact, he said this in the very clip he proposed the debate with Tim Kennedy (because they brought up that same issue about partiality) so it's nothing like the example you gave about Maddow.
              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                He's a Libertarian, but supported Bernie strictly because he's been consistent. There's no contradiction. Try to keep up.
                Universal basic income? Universal healthcare? Those sound like libertarian ideas to you?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
                  Again, even if you don't respect her at least she's a journalist.
                  No she's not, she's a pundit.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
                    Universal basic income? Universal healthcare? Those sound like libertarian ideas to you?
                    Yes.

                    https://www.libertarianism.org/colum...e-basic-income
                    https://stanfordsphere.com/2018/02/2...-basic-income/


                    https://pnhp.org/news/libertarian-ra...-single-payer/
                    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/14/94880/
                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      No she's not, she's a pundit.
                      And Rogan is a comedian. Why should a comedian get to be the sole moderator of a presidential debate?

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                      • #26
                        If I'm wrong on this then I'm wrong I guess. It's been a while since I dabbled in Libertarianism. That just sounds insane to me. Hopefully we can at least agree those wouldn't have been traditional Libertarian stances.
                        Last edited by LiconaFan97; 09-15-2020, 12:14 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
                          And Rogan is a comedian. Why should a comedian get to be the sole moderator of a presidential debate?
                          Maybe because we know it would be raw and unscripted and not coordinated in favor of one over the other, which is why Biden would never do it, nor would his handlers allow it. Ever. I mean, they were even trying to get him to stay out of a formal debate.
                          "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by seanD View Post
                            Maybe because we know it would be raw and unscripted and not coordinated in favor of one over the other, which is why Biden would never do it, nor would his handlers allow it. Ever. I mean, they were even trying to get him to stay out of a formal debate.
                            I don't listen to Rogan's podcast because I find him too objectionable from past comments he's made (perhaps he's changed his views since then). Is he really your first choice for a moderator to host a "raw and unscripted" debate? Is there really no one better?

                            Again, get Shep Smith or Chris Wallace or practically anyone else who actually works in journalism if you really think something like this is the right approach. Why a comedian?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
                              I don't listen to Rogan's podcast because I find him too objectionable from past comments he's made (perhaps he's changed his views since then). Is he really your first choice for a moderator to host a "raw and unscripted" debate? Is there really no one better?
                              If that debate happened, I'm firmly confident it would be the (not one of the) most viewed event in the history of media.
                              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
                                Why a comedian?
                                Have you ever actually listened to him? It might say "comedian" on his resume, but he's very well informed and politically savvy and regularly catches his guests off-guard with his very insightful and probing questions. If he hosted a debate, he would be hard on both candidates.

                                If anything, Joe Rogan is the serious journalist, and Rachael Maddow is the comedian.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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