Trump: The economy does better under democrats

[Electric Skeptic]

In other words, you want us to dig it all out. Sorry. I've a very low opinion on sound bites. So I'll pass.

Your English comprehension appears to be limited - what you claim to be "other words" for what was posted are not remotely accurate.

If you think the context makes what Trump said mean something other than it appears, the onus is on you to demonstrate that.

[Electric Skeptic]

You can't be serious. Trump seems to think that "jobs created" is a quite meaningful number if you caught his stump speech yesterday. Kushner seems to think the employment rate is a quite meaningful number if you caught him embarrassing himself on Fox today. It's the number reported by the government and on the news constantly. Since when has jobs created not been a meaningful metric?

Since Trump doesn't look so good when you use it.

[Electric Skeptic]

No big surprise considering that until very recently he was a liberal Democrat until he had some sort of political epiphany.

He said Romney's immigration policy was too restrictive and called for a path to citizenship for all illegals regardless of how many millions that was.

He said that the gun control laws passed under Clinton didn't go nearly far enough. The same with Obamacare (he originally favored a single payer system).

He favored a wealth tax and left the Republican Party over their opposition to partial birth abortion (saying it was too extreme).

But then, to borrow a phrase, it appears that the scales fell from his eyes.

...or something else happened to make him change his claimed positions.

[LiconaFan97]

No big surprise considering that until very recently he was a liberal Democrat until he had some sort of political epiphany.

He said Romney's immigration policy was too restrictive and called for a path to citizenship for all illegals regardless of how many millions that was.

He said that the gun control laws passed under Clinton didn't go nearly far enough. The same with Obamacare (he originally favored a single payer system).

He favored a wealth tax and left the Republican Party over their opposition to partial birth abortion (saying it was too extreme).

But then, to borrow a phrase, it appears that the scales fell from his eyes.

I was a Trump supporter and now I'm not. Did the scales fall from my eyes?

[seanD]

Sean,

You have provided no evidence that Trump actually understands the fed in any meaningful way and I have never heard him speak on economics on a level that was beyond my capacity to readily follow. Nor have you provided any meaningful explanation of how understanding esoteric economic policy would allow one to empathize with the bottom 98%. Until you can do that I don't think this is going anywhere.

Okay, see ya.

[Sparko]

By that same standard then wouldn't it be fair to say that those who have lost their jobs, lost income, or have entered the workforce and been unable to find quality employment under Trump are worse off?

If they lost their jobs and were not able to find another one then they WOULD be worse off.

[LiconaFan97]

If they lost their jobs and were not able to find another one then they WOULD be worse off.

Sounds like you agree with the ad then.

[Sparko]

Sounds like you agree with the ad then.

Nope. As I said, my metric shows the economy is great. The whole COVID thing is not something that anyone can be blamed for, but even so, the stock market jumped right back up and is now higher than ever. And before COVID the GDP was the highest it had ever been and jobs were plentiful.

[LiconaFan97]

Nope. As I said, my metric shows the economy is great. The whole COVID thing is not something that anyone can be blamed for, but even so, the stock market jumped right back up and is now higher than ever. And before COVID the GDP was the highest it had ever been and jobs were plentiful.

Your metric shows the economy is great for you. That same metric, when applied across the people of this country, shows that the economy is, on average, worse for them. Are you literally saying you only consider your own personal situation when judging the overall strength of the economy? How can your personal situation be used to judge whether the economy across the entire country is better or worse?

[RumTumTugger]

It was 2004? I didn't even know it was that long ago. Well. then that explains a lot. I'll try and make it as easy to understand as I can. If a person A understands the complexities of heart surgery, they're obviously closer to understanding how other systems of the body work than person B who doesn't understand heart surgery even if person A is not a medical specialist in others areas of the body. If you understand the mechanics of federal reserve policy and how it affects things like employment and government debt, you're closer to understanding a much less complex subject like basic economics that affects the common individual better than someone who doesn't understand that policy at all.

in other words Trump has learned a few things since 2004.

[LiconaFan97]

in other words Trump has learned a few things since 2004.

Sean admitted he has no evidence that Trump actually studied the fed at a deep level. Do you have any actual evidence of that? Can you explain how understanding the federal reserve, even at a deep level, allows one to empathize with the bottom 98% after a life of wealth and excess?

[Electric Skeptic]

in other words Trump has learned a few things since 2004.

Has he? What a shame he's keeping it all to himself, then.

[LiconaFan97]

"The World Trade Organization has ruled in favor of China by declaring that Trump administration tariffs on an array of goods totaling more than $200 billion worth of imports are illegal under the rules of the global trade body." according to AP.

But I'm sure Trump is a super economics genius that understands the fed at a deep level.

[Ronson]

"The World Trade Organization has ruled in favor of China by declaring that Trump administration tariffs on an array of goods totaling more than $200 billion worth of imports are illegal under the rules of the global trade body." according to AP.

But I'm sure Trump is a super economics genius that understands the fed at a deep level.

Illegal? The U.S. is free to trade in any manner it wants. There is nothing illegal about how the U.S. trades. If China doesn't like the tariffs then it can stop trading with us. That's called a FREE market.

[LiconaFan97]

Illegal? The U.S. is free to trade in any manner it wants. There is nothing illegal about how the U.S. trades. If China doesn't like the tariffs then it can stop trading with us. That's called a FREE market.

The USA is a member of the WTO. Sure, if we leave we can probably do whatever we want. Is that something Trump is considering?