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  • #46
    Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
    A more recent study, out this year, says differently:

    White police officers are more likely to use force than their non-white counterparts, and especially in minority neighborhoods, according to a new study.

    “White officers use force 60% more than black officers, and use gun force twice as often,” Mark Hoekstra, an economics professor at Texas A&M University, and CarlyWill Sloan, a doctoral candidate there, wrote in a paper published Monday by the National Bureau of Economic Research. “While white and black officers use gun force at similar rates in white and racially-mixed neighborhoods, white officers are five times as likely to use gun force in predominantly black neighborhoods.”
    Perhaps because a white officer is more likely than a black officer to encounter violent resistance in a black neighborhood?
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #47
      Originally posted by seanD View Post
      Only problem with your theory is the visual evidence that disproves your theory. We know from video evidence blacks don't cooperate with white cops, hence the reason, in most cases, they end up getting hurt or shot.
      We do not know from video evidence that blacks fail to cooperate with white cops any more often than whites fail to.
      America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View Post
        We do not know from video evidence that blacks fail to cooperate with white cops any more often than whites fail to.
        Indeed, the incidents that sparked these protests have typically been cases of fully cooperative black people getting killed by cops despite their cooperation.
        Last edited by Starlight; 09-15-2020, 02:57 AM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Indeed, the incidents that sparked these protests have typically been cases of fully cooperatives black people getting killed by cops despite their cooperation.
          That is absolute and complete bullcrap and you know it, SL.
          "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            Indeed, the incidents that sparked these protests have typically been cases of fully cooperative black people getting killed by cops despite their cooperation.
            Fully cooperative, where? Be specific...
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Indeed, the incidents that sparked these protests have typically been cases of fully cooperative black people getting killed by cops despite their cooperation.
              Blatantly false. Some have started out peacefully only to have the person suddenly start fighting when they realize they're being arrested.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Indeed, the incidents that sparked these protests have typically been cases of fully cooperative black people getting killed by cops despite their cooperation.
                Ok, name them.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  It goes without saying that I utterly condemn the behavior of these specific protesters if it is anything close to what is being reported here (not that I would trust Fox News to accurately report that the sky was blue).
                  I posted videos of the protest.

                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  It was apparently this guy Kevin Price and some of his friends for something called Africa Town Coalition. Here is a video from their point of view:

                  https://youtu.be/lvHo7c3FG1k
                  [warning language]

                  Here is the view from a third party:

                  https://youtu.be/K8Trlqg9ECM

                  Looks like it was only a handful of people, and the police drove them off and arrested three including a reporter.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    It goes without saying that I utterly condemn the behavior of these specific protesters if it is anything close to what is being reported here (not that I would trust Fox News to accurately report that the sky was blue).
                    How about a Los Angeles CBS News affiliate (KCAL-TV Channel 9), although they seem more focused on the arrest of the reporter?

                    Source: Anti-Police Protesters Yell ‘We Hope They Die’ Outside Hospital Where Wounded Deputies Were Taken


                    After two Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies were wounded in an unprovoked ambush-style shooting in Compton, an anti-police protest unfolded outside the hospital where both were taken for treatment.

                    Deputies responded to St. Francis Medical Center in Lynwood, Calif. on Saturday evening where protesters converged outside of the emergency room with some yelling, “We hope they die.”

                    “To the protesters blocking the entrance & exit of the HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM yelling ‘We hope they die’ referring to 2 LA Sheriff’s ambushed today in #Compton: DO NOT BLOCK EMERGENCY ENTRIES & EXITS TO THE HOSPITAL,” the sheriff’s department tweeted. “People’s lives are at stake when ambulances can’t get through.” That tweet has since been removed.

                    As deputies issued a dispersal order to the protesters, who were blocking the hospital emergency entrance and exits, one of the male protesters refused to comply and cooperate, according to deputies.

                    “During his arrest, a struggle ensued at which time a female adult ran towards the deputies, ignored repeated commands to stay back as they struggled with the male and interfered with the arrest,” the sheriff’s department tweeted.

                    “The female adult, who was later identified as a member of the press, did not identify herself as press and later admitted she did not have proper press credentials on her person,” the department further said via Twitter.

                    The female adult has since been identified as KPCC radio reporter Josie Huang pushed back on Twitter after she was released from custody saying she was wearing a press lanyard while reporting outside the hospital and suffered injuries during her arrest.

                    The shooting unfolded around 7 p.m. as the deputies sat in their patrol car at a Metro rail station. Both deputies are listed in critical condition.


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                    Of course there are the uncensored, unedited videos that Sparko provided (where you can see that they did more than say "We hope they die")


                    Here is a report from MSN (Microsoft):

                    Source: We hope they die': Protesters gather outside of hospital where two deputies are receiving care following 'ambush


                    Los Angeles protesters descended on a hospital where two deputies were taken after an “ambush” left them in critical condition.

                    “We hope they die,” the crowd reportedly chanted, blocking the entrance to St. Francis Medical Center in Lynwood, California.

                    "They were saying, 'Death to the police,' and, 'Kill the police,' and these are sheriffs, but the message is still the same. They were using all types of curse words and derogatory terms," a faith leader told a local news outlet. "Unacceptable behavior because a hospital should be a sanctuary."

                    One of the protesters outside of the hospital was heard telling an officer, "That's why you're dying one by one, you stupid f---s. Y'all gonna die one by one. This ain't gonna stop."

                    "You're next with the [f-bomb]ing hot pocket," another man shouted, according to Fox News.

                    “To the protesters blocking the entrance & exit of the HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM yelling 'We hope they die' referring to 2 LA Sheriff's ambushed today in #Compton: DO NOT BLOCK EMERGENCY ENTRIES & EXITS TO THE HOSPITAL. People's lives are at stake when ambulances can't get through,” the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department tweeted early Sunday morning.

                    The two deputies were shot in Compton, California, on Saturday evening in what police have described as an “ambush.”

                    "That was a cowardly act," Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva said. "The two deputies were doing their job, minding their own business, watching out for the safety of the people on the train. To see somebody just walk up and start shooting on them, it pisses me off. It dismays me at the same time. There's no pretty way to say it."

                    Police launched a manhunt for the suspect, who was described as a "dark-skinned male."

                    The names of the deputies injured in the attack have not been released, but the two officers were described as a 24-year-old man and a 31-year-old mother.

                    Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti condemned the protesters outside of the hospital during an interview on CNN.

                    "There’s no place in civilized society for anybody to draw an arm and to shoot our law enforcement officers that put their lives on the line. And I won’t ever let a couple voices that not only are uncalled for, but it’s abhorrent to say something like that when we have two deputies, who are sheriff's deputies, in grave condition," Garcetti said during a Sunday morning appearance on NBC News's Meet the Press.



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                    As someone who has seen a video of the shooting I don't know why they put the word ambush in scare quotes. Anywho, both links include videos embedded in the stories.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      It was apparently this guy Kevin Price and some of his friends for something called Africa Town Coalition.
                      As far as I can tell, the Africa Town Coalition is a completely different activist group to Black Lives Matter.

                      Looks like it was only a handful of people
                      Okay. That seems worth noting. Seer's OP was obviously trying to tar the large-scale largely-peaceful BLM protests around the country of late with the brush of the actions of this tiny and unrelated group.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View Post
                        We do not know from video evidence that blacks fail to cooperate with white cops any more often than whites fail to.
                        Electric Skeptic, the foundation of your argument is flawed yyou are right there is no video on social media that shows any white person being killed or abused by the police even when they cooperate that is because no one is interested in posting said video and even if it was posted no one from the leftist MSM is interested in showing all the facts. If you are basing your belief on is what you see on the web your view is rather myopic. The Justice Department tracks incidences of this kind and paints a much different picture, and since they track every police interaction with the public from every police department I'll take their word on it rather then the leftist MSM and posters of the few out of context videos on Social media of the 1/2 dozen or so incidences of white police officers killing blacks. BTW of those cases that sparked the current Riots upon investigation the evidence(body cams, other videos, voice recordings, etc) showed they were not being cooperative but of course if all you are interested in is what is first shown on the web then you will continue with your myoptic view and I can't help you with that.
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        Indeed, the incidents that sparked these protests have typically been cases of fully cooperative black people getting killed by cops despite their cooperation.
                        Bull, Starlight, while grant you George flyodd was abuse by the policemen involved, as all of America agreed when they saw it even with the full evidence came out, the body cam, other videos and evidence that came to light when the few incidences that sparked the riots were investigated showed differently including George Flyodd in the other cases the so called "victims" pulled weapons on the police and were indeed resisting arrest . Oh wait you aren't interested in the truth only your false narrative about how evil America is. Stop ignoring evidence that goes against what you want to believe, if the evidence shows that your narrative is false then accept it and move on, or admit you are not the open minded Intellectual you pretend to be, because you will be called your on your anti intellectual bias every single time.
                        Last edited by RumTumTugger; 09-15-2020, 06:19 PM.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                          Electric Skeptic, the foundation of your argument is flawed
                          I made no argument. I pointed out a fact.


                          Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                          yyou are right there is no video on social media that shows any white person being killed or abused by the police even when they cooperate that is because no one is interested in posting said video and even if it was posted no one from the leftist MSM is interested in showing all the facts.
                          I said nothing about that. I stated - correctly - that we do not know from video evidence that blacks fail to cooperate with white cops any more often than whites fail to. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. seanD's claim that "we know from video evidence blacks don't cooperate with white cops, hence the reason, in most cases, they end up getting hurt or shot" was misleading if not false, which is why I stated what I did.


                          Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                          If you are basing your belief on is what you see on the web your view is rather myopic. The Justice Department tracks incidences of this kind and paints a much different picture, and since they track every police interaction with the public from every police department I'll take their word on it rather then the leftist MSM and posters of the few out of context videos on Social media of the 1/2 dozen or so incidences of white police officers killing blacks. BTW of those cases that sparked the current Riots upon investigation the evidence(body cams, other videos, voice recordings, etc) showed they were not being cooperative but of course if all you are interested in is what is first shown on the web then you will continue with your myoptic view and I can't help you with that.
                          I have no idea what you are talking about. I stated a plain fact that neither you nor anybody else can show to be false. I stated nothing about what you post.
                          America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View Post
                            I made no argument. I pointed out a fact.

                            I said nothing about that. I stated - correctly - that we do not know from video evidence that blacks fail to cooperate with white cops any more often than whites fail to. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. seanD's claim that "we know from video evidence blacks don't cooperate with white cops, hence the reason, in most cases, they end up getting hurt or shot" was misleading if not false, which is why I stated what I did.
                            now that I understand what your point is I want you to do one thing here. In the cases that sparked the current Protests and Riots Name one instance where after a thorough investigation the evidence showed that the Black man cooperated with the police evidence means body cams, other videos, witnesses, etc. I'll make it easier on you the latest one in Lancaster they released the body cam right off and it showed the man attacking the police officer with a knife so you can't use that one as the evidence show he was not cooperating. but any of the others from George Floydd on are fair game.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                              now that I understand what your point is I want you to do one thing here. In the cases that sparked the current Protests and Riots Name one instance where after a thorough investigation the evidence showed that the Black man cooperated with the police evidence means body cams, other videos, witnesses, etc. I'll make it easier on you the latest one in Lancaster they released the body cam right off and it showed the man attacking the police officer with a knife so you can't use that one as the evidence show he was not cooperating. but any of the others from George Floydd on are fair game.
                              I would argue that the police cam footage puts a different light on even the George Floyd incident. It didn't happen ANYTHING like we were led (myself included) to believe. And though I do still think his death questionable, he was in fact resisting and fighting with police once they got him into the back of the police car before they got him on the ground (which he himself requested).
                              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                              • #60
                                Idiots...

                                After vowing to abolish police, Minneapolis City Council demands to know 'Where are the police?' as violence plagues the city

                                Minnesota Public Radio:

                                The number of reported violent crimes, like assaults, robberies and homicides are up compared to 2019, according to MPD crime data. More people have been killed in the city in the first nine months of 2020 than were slain in all of last year. Property crimes, like burglaries and auto thefts, are also up. Incidents of arson have increased 55 percent over the total at this point in 2019
                                .

                                https://www.theblaze.com/news/minnea...are-the-police
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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