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WHISLEBLOWER: Trump manipulating intelligance
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Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostSince I've offered none, irrelevant.
Nope.
He attempted to use his office to pressure a foreign power to attack an opponent.
The childish responses have been all yours.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostNo, it's not. The law presumes nothing of the kind. The jury decides. And in this case the jury were those who voted on his impeachment - where the Republicans bent over and took it for the party.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...m-court-trialsLast edited by Bill the Cat; 09-16-2020, 07:26 AM.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostNo, it's not. The law presumes nothing of the kind. The jury decides. And in this case the jury were those who voted on his impeachment - where the Republicans bent over and took it for the party.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn fact, it does. When a witness swears to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, then anything he testifies to is presumed true unless his credibility is impeached by an opposing party.America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYes you have. The same one Schiff gave.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYep. Lack of a high crime or misdemeanor = no removal from office = right decision = butthurt libtards.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostBiden had not entered the race when the first demand was made. He HAD been VP at the time of his son's potential treason.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostRiiiighht...America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostNo, I have not.
Presence of a high crime or misdemeanor = removal from office = cowardly Republicans = who cares about the country? I need to protect my party!
Which is completely irrelevant. He was still a political opponent of Trump.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostAgain, completely false. It is entirely up to the jury to decide whether they think his testimony is truthful/accurate. The law doesn't even make a determination.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Electric Septic View PostAgain, completely false. It is entirely up to the jury to decide whether they think his testimony is truthful/accurate. The law doesn't even make a determination.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYour next response says otherwise.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostWell, there wasn't the "Presence of a high crime or misdemeanor", so the rest falls miserably around your head.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostNo he wasn't at the time. He was a former VP whose son was being used by a foreign power to leverage the VP. That's treason.America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostNo, it doesn't.
Actually there was the presence of a high crime or misdemeanor, so the rest is completely accurate.
Yes, he was. He was a political opponent on whom Trump sought some dirt.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn fact, it does. When a witness swears to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, then anything he testifies to is presumed true unless his credibility is impeached by an opposing party.
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostNo that’s not how the law works. The judge can’t direct the jury to take someone’s word as truth. There’s a presumption of truth on uncontested points but the ultimate decider on what to believe is entirely on the fact finder, ie. the jury.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYes it does.
No there wasn't. Trump's demands of Zelinski were perfectly within his rights as POTUS, especially considering Burisma had almost direct access to the VP through his worthless son. That's potential treason.
He had not declared his candidacy yet, so no he was not a political opponent. He was a potential traitor. That's not "digging up dirt".America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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