Sorry, kiddo, but firsthand witness testimony trumps guesswork and rumor. When a firsthand witness who spoke directly with the President testifies that he was told unequivocally that there was to be no quid pro quo, and nobody was able to directly challenge his testimony, then it was all over for the prosecution.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSorry, kiddo, but firsthand witness testimony trumps guesswork and rumor. When a firsthand witness who spoke directly with the President testifies that he was told unequivocally that there was to be no quid pro quo, and nobody was able to directly challenge his testimony, then it was all over for the prosecution.
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostNot interested in this sort of childishness.
No, it was not.
Of course he was. He was impeached because of his use of the office to pressure a foreign power to attack an opponent.
Not interested in this sort of childishness, either.That's what
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostOh how with such ease the biased mind ignores the facts. Sondlund testified that he personally delivered the message to the Ukrainian President that military aid was contingent on the investigation into Biden.
What was that you were saying about the ease with which biased minds ignore the facts?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYes, he did say that, but he said it was based entirely on his own unfounded presumption. He never given that directive from the President himself, and when he finally did ask the President directly, the President set him straight with zero ambiguity: "No quid pro quo."
What was that you were saying about the ease with which biased minds ignore the facts?Last edited by JimL; 09-15-2020, 02:57 PM.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostAnd if you believe that the "ambassador" just came to that assumption all on his own...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSorry, kiddo, but firsthand witness testimony trumps guesswork and rumor. When a firsthand witness who spoke directly with the President testifies that he was told unequivocally that there was to be no quid pro quo, and nobody was able to directly challenge his testimony, then it was all over for the prosecution.America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostNot interested in your tinfoil hat conspiracy theories either.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYeah it was.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostWhich was a lie. He used the military funds to pressure a foreign power to investigate a potentially treasonous manipulation of the sitting Vice President's son. That the same former VP announced his candidacy for POTUS 3 weeks later isn't - nor should it be - Trump's problem.
Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThen don't make childish responses.America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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Originally posted by Electric Septic View PostThat's not how it works, because people lie.
That's how it works.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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In other news, Barack and Joe were well aware that Hunter Biden's Ukraine employer was up to no good.
The Obama administration allowed then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter to continue working at Ukrainian gas firm Burisma, even after U.S. officials established “strong” evidence suggesting that the company had engaged in corrupt activities in 2014, Just the News reported Monday, citing State Department memos and interviews.
Hunter, the son of now-Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden, served on Burisma Holding’s board of directors from April 2014 to April 2019, getting paid tens of thousands of dollars each month, more than the average executives with similar positions.
The U.S. investigators reportedly believed Burisma paid a $7 million bribe to local prosecutors between May and December 2014.
According to the State memos, U.S. officials’ concerns about the bribe came to light in January 2015, only months after Burisma hired Hunter and following the opening of two significant corruption probes against the gas firm by investigators in Ukraine and Britain, respectively.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...rved-on-board/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn other news, Barack and Joe were well aware that Hunter Biden's Ukraine employer was up to no good.
The Obama administration allowed then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter to continue working at Ukrainian gas firm Burisma, even after U.S. officials established “strong” evidence suggesting that the company had engaged in corrupt activities in 2014, Just the News reported Monday, citing State Department memos and interviews.
Hunter, the son of now-Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden, served on Burisma Holding’s board of directors from April 2014 to April 2019, getting paid tens of thousands of dollars each month, more than the average executives with similar positions.
The U.S. investigators reportedly believed Burisma paid a $7 million bribe to local prosecutors between May and December 2014.
According to the State memos, U.S. officials’ concerns about the bribe came to light in January 2015, only months after Burisma hired Hunter and following the opening of two significant corruption probes against the gas firm by investigators in Ukraine and Britain, respectively.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...rved-on-board/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...inian-oil-deal
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's what he testified to under oath, and nobody was ever able to credibly challenge his testimony, so I see no good reason to doubt him.
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostI would’ve thought the fact that he continued to act under his assumptions would be a reason for doubt.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThen it was up to the prosecution to impeach his credibility. They failed to do so. Therefore, the law presumes that he is telling the truth.
That's how it works.America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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