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  • #31
    Hmmm....

    We in newer countries are privileged to not confront face to face the conflicts that have shaped a society for centuries. Look at the Balkans for instance compared to America.
    The Balkans are not full of old countries (their borders and governmental systems, such as they are, shift according to the fortunes of war) than old nations and peoples.

    Originally posted by Anastasia Dragule
    I get the impression that we agree that the history between peoples is stronger in one area than another. What I am also proposing is that hundreds of years of conflict are harder for a community to forget than a couple years of conflict. It's easy to say people should get over the past. It's hard to be the one doing it, going against upbringing, and things like that.
    Agreed! Of course, you can always add new fuel for the conflict with every new public demontration/execution/terrorist act as well. And if you're a bigger and more secure country full of ambitious people with nothing better to do, you can take sides and stir up those conflicts for fun, profit, or the sense that you're helping people without actually helping them in any larger sense, or taking responsibility when things go south.

    International feminism is that second one.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      The British paid the useful people better and India benefited as a whole seeing how their population started growing under the British.
      Do tell.

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      • #33
        If you let us start telling, we'll probably be here all day. A small excerpt should suffice:

        Originally posted by Mencius Moldbug
        "Colonialism" was a great epoch of history that lumps together a remarkable constellation of governments - from Leopold's Congo at the worst, to Cromer's Egypt at the best. But picking the worst is easy; picking the best is hard. There were a lot of Egypts and not a lot of Leopolds.
        Other sources:

        Originally posted by TIME Magazine
        Around 45,000 people die each month in the DRC as a result of the social collapse brought on by civil war, according to a study released in January by the International Rescue Committee. It estimated the total loss of life between 1998 and April 2007 at 5.4 million. For many Congolese like Le Blanc, the difficulties of today blot out the cruelties of the past. "On this river, all that you see — the buildings, the boats — only whites did that. After the whites left, the Congolese did not work. We did not know how to. For the past 50 years, we've just declined." He pauses. "They took this country by force," he says, with more than a touch of admiration. "If they came back, this time we'd give them the country for free."
        Course, that was 2008, which was like forever ago.

        When he finally gets to India, it gets best:

        Originally posted by Mencius Moldbug
        Once Parliament decided that John Company was no more and India must be run for more ethereal reasons than mere profit, the fate of India as a colony was sealed. Once profitable government becomes charitable government, Third World status is only a matter of time. Like private companies, all countries disintegrate into bloated mush when run continuously at a loss.

        Thus, colonialism cannot be restored by any mere subterfuge of rebranding. Its death was part of the slow decline of Western government, in which all institutions become larger and weaker. The postcolonial Third World state is a colony - in the sense of its political, military and/or economic dependency. It is just a very bad colony. It is bound no less closely to the West. All that has changed is that it is run as inefficiently as possible, which may cause some heartburn for its burgeoning army of Western managers - but certainly does not produce any hardship for them. The worse the business, the more managers it needs.
        More on this degeneration of colonialism since its official end can be found here.

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