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American Christianity’s White-Supremacy Problem
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"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostYou do know that the Nazis murdered around eleven million souls, don't you? They started with their political opponents and then moved on to the disabled.
I might as well ask you how many lynch mob uncles and great uncles do you have?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostOf course it does. How else do you explain the neo nazis and white supremacists around today?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostOf course it does. How else do you explain the neo nazis and white supremacists around today?
Neo-Nazi Provocations on the Rise in Germany
https://www.courthousenews.com/neo-n...se-in-germany/Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Reepicheep View PostThe link I posted mentions the two previous resolutions:
"In 1995, the Convention formally apologized for its support of slavery. In 2015, it passed a resolution calling for racial reconciliation. Last week's resolution denouncing white nationalism passed overwhelmingly."The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostMaking fatuous remarks can be very entertaining but they do not adequately address the complex issues in this topic. You ought to read Robert P Jones' books, he's written two.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostDo they?
Well that is a delightful back-handed compliment to your daughter, as according to what you have written she is clearly neither "believable/honest/accurate/worthy-of-listening-to/etc ".
Have you informed her of your opinion of her literary credentials?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostJones has written two books on White Christian America. That is a specific subject area.
Of course writing books does not automatically assume accuracy. However, accredited academics [as is Jones] writing in their discipline is a different matter.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostYou do know that the Nazis murdered around eleven million souls, don't you? They started with their political opponents and then moved on to the disabled.
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Originally posted by seer View PostThey are learning from the good example of your forefathers.
Originally posted by seer View PostAnd what about the Neo-nazis in your country today?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostAnd? What about it?
No, it makes him an 'academic', writing for his ivory tower fellows.
He serves on the national programme committee for the American Academy of Religion, which is the world's largest association of scholars in the field of religious studies and related topics.
He is also a past member of the editorial boards for the Journal of the American Academy of Religion, and Politics and Religion, a journal of the American Political Science Association.
His academic credentials are a Ph.D in religion, a M.Div, and a B.Sc. in computing science and mathematics."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostHave you heard of the German American Bund, or German American Federation? It was a German-American pro-Nazi organisation that was established in 1936.
Your link is hardly news they have been around for some time and it is very worrying as is the rise of the AfD. However, most of the extreme RW/fascist groups seem to have their origins in the regions that were once the former GDR and that area of Germany has a different post war history from what was formerly West Germany.Last edited by seer; 09-07-2020, 07:32 PM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostAnd where is your apology for what they did? Since we don't see one should we then assume 'alarming' things about you?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostI didn't respond to your whole OP, or to your article (didn't read your article either as it has little interest to me as an atheist). I responded to several lines of your post, where you made statements in your own words.
YOU made the statement that I quoted. No one else. If you can't handle criticism of your own words, don't post.
I responded to you, and quoted only you. Not your article. Are you unable to comprehend that?
Not remotely.
The antisemitic foundation of Nazism was a guiding principle that underpinned Germany for centuries. Nazism cost millions of lives. And occured far more recently than slavery in the US. So let's hear your apology, or else don't demand an apology from others for slavery in the US.
No, I a fixated on your statement, that you made, and seem to be trying to flee from.
I repeat, I replied to you, and your own words, not some article.
That's nice, but has nothing to do with my post.
SO let's see the apologies from you for the Nazis, from Africans for enslaving africans (still going on today, BTW in a number of African countries), from Muslims for their enslavement of whites, etc..
That or you can just say "Hey, you know, now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't have said what I did, I didn't actually mean it.", and we can leave it at that. Because clearly you're trying your darndest to not stick by your words and your logic. I quoted you, and only you. Stop trying to distract with your article, which I made no quotation of or reply to.
Your ignorance over the origins and history of anti-Semitism is quite alarming. It was not as you allege "a guiding principle that underpinned Germany for centuries" [my emphasis] given that "Germany" did not exist until 1871.
Anti-Semitism can be found in every Christian Western nation. There were various anti-Semitic groups/political parties across Europe in the 1920s and 1930s including affiliated Nazi parties, and where the Nazis invaded they found plenty of willing collaborators to denounce and/or help round up Jews. Without that local assistance the Gestapo could not have done its job.
Conversely many Germans risked [and lost] their lives helping to hide Jews or get Jews to safety.
Hence it was not a black and white situation with only "baddie Germans" which is how you appear to envisage it."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by seer View PostRight, influenced by your country...
Originally posted by seer View Post
So I guess both countries have their present day racists and racists history - so why are you always coming down on the US? Just being hypocritical?
Judging from that question you have asked, I suspect you did not."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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