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American Christianity’s White-Supremacy Problem
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI have never seen him make any such claim. That's a pretty serious charge which you need to either back up, or retract and apologize.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostThat's literally blood libel."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostWill not back up nor apologize.
But, let's be clear.... you made an accusation that appears, on its face, to be false, but you will neither back it up with proof, or retract it?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostWill not back up nor apologize.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think it's a slippery slope type argument. In SPECIFIC cases.... therefore, in GENERAL.....My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by seer View PostI don't know what he is getting at...My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo CP, its just an attempt to see if we can agree on that basic moral example. Seer has said we are not obligated to what our ancesters have done. He said that as an absolute. My example creates a clear case where we ARE morally obligated by what our ancestors have done. It is hypothetical in that neither of us specifically is faced with that directly, but nevertheless it is a counter example that shows we can be obligated by what our ancestors have done.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo CP, its just an attempt to see if we can agree on that basic moral example. Seer has said we are not obligated to what our ancesters have done. He said that as an absolute. My example creates a clear case where we ARE morally obligated by what our ancestors have done. It is hypothetical in that neither of us specifically is faced with that directly, but nevertheless it is a counter example that shows we can be obligated by what our ancestors have done.Last edited by seer; 09-08-2020, 01:45 PM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI just know I'm probably going to regret this being how much of an ignorant novice you are on the subject.
Originally posted by seanD View PostWe don't know explicitly who wrote the gospels (though that's a subject of much debate)
Originally posted by seanD View Postbut we know based on the content that the two authors were Jewish.
Originally posted by seanD View PostThe gospel of John and Matthew closely resemble Judaic prose of that day
Originally posted by seanD View Postespecially the the content found in the Qumran scrolls.
Originally posted by seanD View PostWhat makes you think John is "rabidly anti-Judaic?""It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostNo it is not. The blood libel is a later medieval conception premised on certain specific texts found in the New Testament
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Originally posted by seer View PostBut in your example I would have directly benefited from stolen money.
That is not my case, or probably yours. So it would be specific to particular a case. You can't generalize. Which you did: We are responsible for the legacy of what was done, the impact of it. No we are not all responsible for a legacy that neither we or our ancestors had any part in.
No one is proposing that take responsibility for the sins of others. What is important is to acknowledge the racist history of the USA, and the devastating impact it has had on the blacks, their society and culture. But yes, the sins of our Anglo-Saxon ancestors and many today is brutal and immoral.
Your family heritage had the Anglo-Saxon advantage. All whites in the USA have the Anglo-Saxon advantage it is a fact of history.Last edited by shunyadragon; 09-08-2020, 01:56 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostWell, . . . ah not the point of my posts, and no I have not addressed this issue. I could document that White privilege did give a huge economic advantage to the whit population of America, but I cannot bring that down to the individual level.
Again, I never referred to individual responsibility nor guilt. I said:Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostLet's see the quote.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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