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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostI understand Communism and the times we are in. Communism has nothing to do with the US because the number of people who live here and want a Communist government are minuscule. If you have been convinced otherwise from conspiracy peddlers that's a rather large burden of proof.
Whose propaganda?
Oh well. The people are asleep. This leaves only our Lord and Savior to deliver us from this mess.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostOh well. The people are asleep. This leaves only our Lord and Savior to deliver us from this mess.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostI would be very resistant to enumerating positive rights based on government education, shelter, food, water, and jobs programs for the reason you mention, that it necessitates extensive examination and elaboration as well as exploitation, even if I think they should be provided. Less complicated, well-tested programs like minimum wage, a speedy and fair trial, or healthcare should be rights. Otherwise, the rights for humanity should be almost wholly negative (religion, speech, slavery, property). I would also want a right to government oversight, because that's the easiest way for a bill of rights to be without teeth as ours is in the US. For example, having supreme court members appointed by a president and a legislative majority is not a good way to ensure a country's rights. I think the greatest enemy of unity is self-interest, and the more protections there are in place for equality measures and against snowballing power grabs (for example, wealth inequality or corporate monopolies), the better.
---Positive rights. Yes, it does require intense examination, but this results in a much clearer vision of what rights look like and who is/are responsible and to what degree...so I think it is worth it....?
exploitation...?...how so?
---Negative rights. Yes, these are simpler...but ideas of rights based only/mostly on Negative rights is imbalanced....?....a vision of both positive and negative rights is more wholistic?...and may perhaps lead to better promotion of equality---and therefore justice?
Conceptualizing negative rights encourages one towards a binary...for ex---the right from religion necessitates the binary of no-religion/secularism = good, religion = bad. While such a conceptualization is necessary, it alone cannot bring wholisitc equality because it does not provide any vision for how/whose ethico=moral values will prevail/be privileged. This is left upto the majority (in a democracy) which means secular countries with a Christian heritage will be bent towards Christian values, or those with a Muslim heritage will be bent towards Islamic values---etc Therefore minorities will have problems---and these problems will escalate when the demographics of the majority begins to change....(culture wars)
Suppose we define religion/religio-philosophy as a collection of ethico-moral principles that one (voluntarily) agrees to (and we can include humanism and other non-theistic philosophies in this category also)---then freedom from religion would mean that one persons ethico-moral principles/practices cannot infringe on another person, nor be forced onto another person. However, this concept does not adequately address the issue of how one is to live an ethico-moral life (the right to religion). (The "sharia" hysteria in the West) In the Islamicate period, this positive right (freedom of religion) meant that each religio-philosophical community was free to live their own ethico-moral principles which were adjudicated/arbitrated in their own courts by their own legal systems. This resolved the problem of culture wars related to demographics and majorities.
Government oversight---I agree that this right should belong to the people ---and also that the judiciary should be independent of the government.
do you have some ideas on what this might look like?
Unity vs self interest---I agree. In your opinion....how can we promote large groups of people towards sharing/altruism?
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Originally posted by seer View PostLast edited by mikewhitney; 09-17-2020, 12:53 AM.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostOOh well. The people are asleep. This leaves only our Lord and Savior to deliver us from this mess.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Rogue for something to be funny it needs some sort of basis in fact. The stuff you post is almost never at all funny cos it's just dumb and wrong. It's like posting 1+1 = 10000 and thinking that's somehow hilarious."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostRogue for something to be funny it needs some sort of basis in fact. The stuff you post is almost never at all funny cos it's just dumb and wrong. It's like posting 1+1 = 10000 and thinking that's somehow hilarious.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/on-white-fragilityAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd you have read a lot of Robin J. DiAngelo have you? Here an article by a card carrying leftist, Matt Taibbi...
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/on-white-fragility"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSo somebody wrote a dumb book, and leftists (e.g. Matt Taibbi) mocked it. Okay, so what? That's not something unusual.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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