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  • Critical Race Theory, and why...

    ...you can not win. Everything must be viewed through race and power dynamics. Group identity, not individual agency or beliefs, rule. A common example:

    You own a small tailor shop where you need to personally service each customer. Two men walk in, one black one white, at the same time. You choose to help the white man first. That of course means that you see blacks as second class citizens. If you choose the black man first, that means you don't trust the black man to wander through the store while helping the white guy. Novel explanations of such racist tendencies can be invented for nearly every situation. It is devised so you can't win, the white owner is racist no matter his choice. And so are you...

    https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/87913...nd-anti-racism
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    Is that common example actually happening?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
      Is that common example actually happening?
      It is not happening in the sense that people are going into the tailor's and accusing him, but yes it is becoming widely accepted in academia. If you are really interested here is a link:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdlNIJB9ZVU
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • #4
        Your example focuses on invented explanations, whereas those who wish to change society to eliminate racial bias have specific examples and academic studies they use as guiding posts. What makes you think that CRT is so prone to invention?

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        • #5
          Also I'm not going to stop calling you out on what you said about wanting it to be illegal to be gay, and for them to be punished "like they used to".

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          • #6
            Is that your excuse?
            “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
            “not all there” - you know who you are

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
              Your example focuses on invented explanations, whereas those who wish to change society to eliminate racial bias have specific examples and academic studies they use as guiding posts. What makes you think that CRT is so prone to invention?
              Watch my last link, Peter Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose, James Lindsay have done great work on the history of this and its present influence. Or go here: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/re...ealing-racism/
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                Also I'm not going to stop calling you out on what you said about wanting it to be illegal to be gay, and for them to be punished "like they used to".
                Leonhard, I never said "punished" like they used to be, just illegal. I was very clear. Let me ask you, was putting homosexual and adulterers to death in the OT just?
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by seer View Post
                  Leonhard, I never said "punished" like they used to be, just illegal. I was very clear.
                  Yes you were very clear, and I am not going to stop calling you out on it.

                  Let me ask you, was putting homosexual and adulterers to death in the OT just?
                  Jesus made it clear divorce wasn't just, and yet the law of Moses permitted it because of the coldness of people's hearts.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                    Yes you were very clear, and I am not going to stop calling you out on it.
                    What was the punishment I suggested Leonhard? Fines?


                    Jesus made it clear divorce wasn't just, and yet the law of Moses permitted it because of the coldness of people's hearts.
                    What does that have to do with putting homosexual and adulterers to death? Are you saying that was unjust?
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      What was the punishment I suggested Leonhard? Fines?
                      I don't care what you call it. You want to control people's lives. Especially people who are not like you. Economic punishment is just another kind of punishment.

                      It's whatever leather belt you want the nanny state to use.

                      What does that have to do with putting homosexual and adulterers to death? Are you saying that was unjust?
                      I thought you only wanted to fine them? Why are you asking whether it is okay to kill them? Whether it was, or wasn't permitted for the Jews.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                        I don't care what you call it. You want to control people's lives. Especially people who are not like you. Economic punishment is just another kind of punishment.

                        It's whatever leather belt you want the nanny state to use.
                        So you favor more soul killing immorality in society.

                        I thought you only wanted to fine them? Why are you asking whether it is okay to kill them? Whether it was, or wasn't permitted for the Jews.
                        No, I'm asking you if those OT laws were just.
                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by seer View Post
                          So you favor more soul killing immorality in society.
                          I prefer the values of freedom.

                          No, I'm asking you if those OT laws were just.
                          They were given the hebrews, some of the laws were just, others were permitted because of the hardness of their hearts.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seer View Post
                            Watch my last link, Peter Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose, James Lindsay have done great work on the history of this and its present influence. Or go here: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/re...ealing-racism/
                            I'm not interested in watching an hour-long video for the sake of this discussion, but I read through the article you linked and found it wholly unconvincing. The author says CRT is prone to invention because critical theorists look for things that aren't there. This is a universal criticism of anyone with a strong world view and could apply to religions, political parties, cultural groups, hobbies, etc. If you have any particular reasons to believe that CRT is especially deficient in this regard I would be interested in discussing them, but I otherwise don't see the point to arguing by link on a discussion forum.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                              I prefer the values of freedom.
                              Over the salvation of souls? Look at what has happened in the West since the sexual revolution Leonhard. Our freedom has turned into licence, porn and sexual immorality is running rampant. It is not good on any level.
                              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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