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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    We would need to rescue our beloved CaliTwebists.
    Someone has been practicing PIN™ strikes in case an emergency team of NSA go in for a rescue and evacuation.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    • #17
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      Someone has been practicing PIN™ strikes in case an emergency team of NSA go in for a rescue and evacuation.
      Who doesn't loves a good exfiltration?
      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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      • #18
        Originally posted by whag View Post
        You're missing the nuance of this. It doesn't mean get rid of law enforcers but threaten departments to take action against police brutality (no easy bonuses and rewards, stricter vetting of officers' ability to de-escalate).
        That's probably going to be inevitable. In fact, I would bet not only will police departments across the nation enact some sweeping reforms from within, but that "brotherhood code of silence" thing might not be so pervasive now. More good cops will step forward if for no other reason than to not have the entire nation want to string them up for the things the bad cops do.
        "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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        • #19
          Originally posted by seanD View Post
          That's probably going to be inevitable. In fact, I would bet not only will police departments across the nation enact some sweeping reforms from within, but that "brotherhood code of silence" thing might not be so pervasive now. More good cops will step forward if for no other reason than to not have the entire nation want to string them up for the things the bad cops do.
          I think that Minnesota's AG is on track when he's talking about making it a CRIME for police officers NOT to intervene in wrongful conduct.
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          • #20
            People want reform if the police won't speak out against what happened and if they don't propose any concrete pathway to reform, one will happen one way or another, for better or worse. Only this time the police won't be the ones in charge.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              People want reform if the police won't speak out against what happened
              Leon, Police all across America are speaking out against what happened. Heck, the Houston Police Chief is offering to give George Floyd's funeral procession a POLICE ESCORT.

              and if they don't propose any concrete pathway to reform, one will happen one way or another, for better or worse. Only this time the police won't be the ones in charge.
              OK, so how bout starting with the Police Chief of the department that allowed this nonsense? Doesn't the buck stop there?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                We would need to rescue our beloved CaliTwebists.
                Reverse Wagon Train road trip!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                  People want reform if the police won't speak out against what happened and if they don't propose any concrete pathway to reform, one will happen one way or another, for better or worse. Only this time the police won't be the ones in charge.
                  What exactly is the problem?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sparko View Post
                    reverse wagon train road trip!
                    yipee!!!!!
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Leon, Police all across America are speaking out against what happened. Heck, the Houston Police Chief is offering to give George Floyd's funeral procession a POLICE ESCORT.
                      And that's good. Keep that up. It's a beginning. It's probably a decade too late to stop the anger from people, but it's better than "let's wait until all the facts are in" nonsense. We don't have to wait in this case.

                      OK, so how bout starting with the Police Chief of the department that allowed this nonsense? Doesn't the buck stop there?
                      That's a beginning, but I believe we ought to leave no stone unturned. The guys involved, in jail for second-degree murder. That's immediate triage. But people want reform. They don't want another name who gets fired to live a life on a fat pension check. They want reform.

                      And if you ask me I believe that reform should never end, but be a permanent ongoing process.

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                      • #26
                        People seem to forget that there are a lot of black police officers (and chiefs!)

                        One was just killed by the protestors. Where's the outrage?

                        https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/da...rnd/index.html

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by seer View Post
                          What exactly is the problem?
                          Police brutality, and the reason why it is accepted and defended, why it occurs and what to do to reform the system to minimize it going forward.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            People seem to forget that there are a lot of black police officers (and chiefs!)
                            You're the one bringing color into this Sparko, not me.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                              You're the one bringing color into this Sparko, not me.
                              You are painting all police with a broad brush. Claiming that police abuse is a systemic problem in the police force. I guess that means the black cops are part of the problem too.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                You are painting all police with a broad brush. Claiming that police abuse is a systemic problem in the police force. I guess that means the black cops are part of the problem too.
                                It is a systematic problem. Some police departments have a lot more trouble with it than others. Why is that? How did some police force allow such vile incompetent men and women to serve with them? The murderer of Floyd was a police officer with a long rap sheet, but had never been thrown out. Why is that? And why are no police officers talking about *that*.

                                It's fine that some of them make statements condemning what happened, but I think there ought to be reasonable explanations why it came to be.

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