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  • List your Non-Biased News Sources

    I find it very difficult to find anything that is accepted as "non-biased" by the people on TWeb.

    First of all, mocking a source as "biased" because you don't like the FACTS they show -- even if they included a video of somebody personally saying something, is just batpoop nutty.
    Either the person SAID it, or they didn't, regardless of the source reporting it.

    So, just curious if it's possible to list a couple sources that both liberals and conservatives or democrats and republicans, or whoever, thought were "non-biased".
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    • #3
      Originally posted by mossrose View Post
      I actually can't think of any off the top of my head.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        I actually can't think of any off the top of my head.
        Yuh.


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        • #5
          Every source I regularly read is biased toward truth and facts.
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          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


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          • #6
            I think a starting point could be: what are the news sources for which their news reporting generally agree with the Fox News *news* (not opinion) reporting. Also filter out sources which are news aggregators + opinion.

            I would imagine that the traditional mainstream news sources would be covered by that standard.
            Last edited by DivineOb; 02-09-2020, 09:13 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              Every source I regularly read is biased toward truth and facts.
              Like breitbart ?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
                I think a starting point could be: what are the news sources for which their news reporting generally agree with the Fox News *news* (not opinion) reporting.
                Interesting that you only identify conservative sources. Are you think there are no liberal sources that could be problematic?

                Also filter out sources which are news aggregators + opinion.
                I would think sources that clearly identify themselves as entertainment, or opinion, or commentary should not be considered "news sources", biased or not.

                I would imagine that the traditional mainstream news sources would be covered by that standard.
                OK, so propose one or two, or a few.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                  Like breitbart ?

                  Funny thing about Breitbart, nobody has ever pointed out a single factual error in any of the stories that I've referenced in these forums. carpe came up with the novel theory that while Breitbart does report the facts, it's really just a clever ruse so their critics can't accuse them of not reporting the facts. How devious!
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                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Interesting that you only identify conservative sources. Are you think there are no liberal sources that could be problematic?
                    I was suggesting Fox News "news" as generally unbiased, not as a biased source. At least that's my understanding and been the case in my (limited) personal experience.

                    I don't know many biased left wing sites because I don't waste my time on them. I know ShareBlue is one I used to read a few years ago until I learned they weren't reliable. DailyKos is also too biased for me to take seriously but I only see their headlines in my email and very rarely click anything.

                    I can list sources which I think are generally reliable in their news reporting (e.g. WaPo). Hopefully posters in this thread can accept that not every news organization gets it right 100% of the time.
                    Last edited by DivineOb; 02-09-2020, 10:51 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
                      I was suggesting Fox News "news" as generally unbiased, not as a biased source.
                      Interesting, cause some of the liberals here freak out when anybody mentions Fox News. I only peek in occasionally, because it seems like most of the program is commentary or opinion or a host with some people yelling at each other.

                      At least that's my understanding and been the case in my (limited) personal experience.
                      OK.

                      I don't know many biased left wing sites because I don't waste my time on them. I know ShareBlue is one I used to read a few years ago until I learned they weren't reliable. DailyKos is also too biased for me to take seriously but I only see their headlines in my email and very rarely click anything.

                      I can list sources which I think are generally reliable in their news reporting (e.g. WaPo). Hopefully posters in this thread can accept that not every news organization gets it right 100% of the time.
                      OK, so let's take that --- how may think WaPo is mostly unbiased? (I really don't pay a lot of attention to them)
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Funny thing about Breitbart, nobody has ever pointed out a single factual error in any of the stories that I've referenced in these forums. carpe came up with the novel theory that while Breitbart does report the facts, it's really just a clever ruse so their critics can't accuse them of not reporting the facts. How devious!
                        While I do not follow them closely enough dispute you claims about 'facts', the art of bias is the selective reporting of the facts mixed in with opinion from a certain point of view.
                        He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

                        "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          Interesting, cause some of the liberals here freak out when anybody mentions Fox News. I only peek in occasionally, because it seems like most of the program is commentary or opinion or a host with some people yelling at each other.

                          OK.

                          OK, so let's take that --- how may think WaPo is mostly unbiased? (I really don't pay a lot of attention to them)
                          For the most part cable news is opinion and commentary -- or what they call "analysis."

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                          • #14
                            I do think editorial stance can influence how a story is slanted. So a series of news stories from Fox, which is more favorable toward conservatives and trump will present a slightly different picture than a series of articles from a left leaning news source; a single story compared to a series of stories does give a different picture.

                            But I have always read opinion pieces as part of reading the news (even when news came packaged on dead trees), because a minor piece of news might be emphasized, placing more or a different emphasis on the small detail. While I do not read gossip rags much, they have broken open major news stories. So the National Enquirer might not be consistently reliable (unless you think Elvis might be alive and well, though Amelia Earhart stories have disappeared), it cannot be dismissed entirely.

                            A recent example: a post linked to a newsweek story about a holocaust survivor who was critical of fascism and Trump, drawing parallels between Europe a century ago and America today. I think it a well written article, drawing in many pertinent ideas throughout the article. But would Fox have published a story about that man's story?

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                            • #15
                              I would say AP and Reuters are generally regarded as the two most non-biased news reporting agencies, and they usually tend to just stick to facts.


                              Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                              But I have always read opinion pieces as part of reading the news (even when news came packaged on dead trees), because a minor piece of news might be emphasized, placing more or a different emphasis on the small detail...

                              A recent example: a post linked to a newsweek story about a holocaust survivor who was critical of fascism and Trump, drawing parallels between Europe a century ago and America today. I think it a well written article, drawing in many pertinent ideas throughout the article.
                              I 100% agree with you. Firstly on the fact that different levels of emphasis matter. Millions of things happen daily in the world, and which of them are 'important' and 'newsworthy' is subjective, and within those stories, what the 'important facts' are and aren't is subjective.

                              Secondly, almost never is one individual fact important - a story that reports a single headline fact and nothing else might be 'unbiased' or 'neutral' but it's not particularly helpful unless you know the background of why that fact is important, what were the events leading up until now that make it important, and what we might reasonably expect in the future because of that event. It's that need for past and future context for an event to be meaningful/important, that makes some level of 'opinion pieces' core to the news because unless the writer can supply some sort of narrative about how this event fits into the world, it's not necessarily very helpful to know the event happened. Nor is it helpful to have an understanding of the world that doesn't have the ability to piece together causes and effects in a reasoned manner - if the news source isn't supplying any sort of way of understanding the events and understanding their causes, then they might as well have just occurred at random, but if they do provide such an explanation of causes, then they open themselves up to accusations of bias.

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