Paid family Leave?

[simplicio]

My understanding of the situation was that socialist and communist groups were getting very powerful in the US at the time, off the back of the Great Depression showing the failures of capitalism and the new USSR giving people around the world wild ideas of revolution. These groups were powerful enough that FDR went to them and asked what it would take for them to not have a USSR-style revolution, and so they dictated terms to him, which became the New Deal. Prior to that FDR had apparently been a fairly run-of-the-mill oligarch. Of course the moment he saw how popular the things the socialists had told him to do were, the politician in him ran with them.

In that sense, a lot of Americans I don't think realize that Democratic Socialism has already been tried in the US... and the country liked the New Deal an awful lot.

I am not sure how much was 'dictated' to FDR, the unprecedented emergency with the concurrent unrest. The farmers went through a agriculture sector depression in the twenties with waves of foreclosures, then the same hit the cities in the thirties. There are reports of farm wives canning extra because they were convinced of a Bolshevik style revolution because conditions were dire, some counties had drought with plagues of insects of biblical proportions and waves of sand and soil shifting like dunes, dust from midwest would color the skies of the east. Henry Wallace (Ag secretary) was a hard core leftist, and most farmers did support left leaning ideas (Grange and National Farmers Union pushed extreme ideas)

Many felt society had collapsed, and FDR's fireside chats were wildly popular, a sliver of stability providing a sense of security. The first 100 days saw an alphabet soup of programs, and rural America had special attention, electrification and price 'parities' were introduced (which survived half century). The reaction was similar to the immediate reaction to 08 recession, a flood of programs.

I think FDR and New Deal drew on Republican Progressive ideas, Teddy Roosevelt's Square Deal.

[demi-conservative]

The occasional good Starlight post. Now demi waits for the other shoe to drop.

Here we go again.

Translations:

I know she wants to decriminalise it totally, but she isn't trying to do it totally yet so...

The left in virtually every Western country wants mass migration, with some flipflopping temporarily because of voter anger, but I'm going to keep my head in the sand anyway

[Starlight]

I'm sorry Demi but I like to stick with the facts and they don't justify your theories. You're just plain wrong about what you claim the left believes / wants.

I follow a lot of progressive, left wing, liberal, and democratic socialist sources... so far I've heard not a single one of them, zero, ever argue even once for mass migration or open borders.

[demi-conservative]

I'm sorry Demi but I like to stick with the facts and they don't justify your theories. You're just plain wrong about what you claim the left believes / wants.

I follow a lot of progressive, left wing, liberal, and democratic socialist sources... so far I've heard not a single one of them, zero, ever argue even once for mass migration or open borders.

Demi smacks down Starlight, Starlight goes into denial. It's getting boring.

[Sparko]

Sure Demi. And you are the Christian par excellence, a model for all twebbers to emulate.

Heck no. Demi is probably one of the top Tweb trolls, so he is pretty good at spotting his competition. He spent years pretending to be a Russian.