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Trump Struggles With Basic Christian Teaching
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I have my doubts that Trump is really a Christian, but I don't know him personally. I don't think his behavior at the NPB was out of line for a new Christian. Forgiving and even loving your enemies is one of the hardest things to do, new Christian or old.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostGiven that his track record through his life has been fixated on seeking revenge against his enemies (as recently as yesterday) it seems ludicrous to assume he will turn a new leaf at any point.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI have my doubts that Trump is really a Christian, but I don't know him personally. I don't think his behavior at the NPB was out of line for a new Christian. Forgiving and even loving your enemies is one of the hardest things to do, new Christian or old.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIF Trump is a Christian - and I don't know if he is or not - he would be a NEW Christian. Mocking him for "struggling with basic Christian teachings" would be like mocking a 2 year old for not being able to read.
My advice would be to not miss an opportunity to mock him, and drive him away as hard as you can. He is only as strong as your willingness to be flattered or comforted by him.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIn my opinion he is very far from being Christian. He doesn’t want your faith, but instead, he wants your vote or your support when he attacks his ‘enemies’, who are everybody that criticise him.
My advice would be to not miss an opportunity to mock him, and drive him away as hard as you can. He is only as strong as your willingness to be flattered or comforted by him.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOh, so you think he's a new christian now? I wonder when that might have happened? ...
Sparko said - "I have my doubts" and you catapult to "Oh, so you think he's a new Christian now".
A reasonable reading of Sparko's post would be "IF he's a Christian, he's a NEW one....."The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostHe might actually be open to the idea of 'loving your enemies', which is better than many professed Christians.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostHe might actually be open to the idea of 'loving your enemies', which is better than many professed Christians.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostCalm yourself, Jim --- it ALLEGEDLY happened recently because Paula White's ministry - many of us are skeptical.
Sparko said - "I have my doubts" and you catapult to "Oh, so you think he's a new Christian now".
A reasonable reading of Sparko's post would be "IF he's a Christian, he's a NEW one....."
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Originally posted by JimL View PostRather suspiscious that he became a christian when he became political,
worse yet that he, a con artist and crook was converted, by another con artist and crook.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, Jim, just like I would a poor lost sinner like you.
It is indeed part of my concern that the person involved in his "conversion" was somebody for whom I don't have much respect.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostHe might actually be open to the idea of 'loving your enemies', which is better than many professed Christians.Last edited by little_monkey; 02-09-2020, 12:18 PM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, Jim, just like I would a poor lost sinner like you.
It is indeed part of my concern that the person involved in his "conversion" was somebody for whom I don't have much respect.
I've seen a lot of people from a lot of different backgrounds come to Christ. And I haven't seen anything that even remotely resembles evidence of actual faith in Christ coming from Donald Trump.
I just watched a young girl this morning talk about the most recent two years of her life after choosing to follow Christ. How he delivered her from drugs, how she is now leading Bible studies, how she has left that old life behind, how she is now living a life filled with God's love and free from the bondage Christ saved her from.
Pretending Trump 'might've have actually come to Christ prior to or during any time in the last few years spits on a person's testimony like what I heard this morning. She is an example of what Jesus does when he comes into a person's life. Donald Trump is not.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 02-09-2020, 09:37 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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