Trump's speech malfunctions from Wednesday

[DivineOb]

Tom Arnold? The former actor who has been peddling Trump-related conspiracy theories so out there that even the maliciously anti-Trump New York Times said that to characterize them as "a nothingburger is inadequate" (and referred to them as a "nothingbuffet").

I'm not claiming Trump snorted Sudafed. The claim is he snorts Adderall. Your link is irrelevant.

Did you even visit the links I posted?

[Mountain Man]

Already done - it's called the 25th Amendment.

Yes, and the 25th Amendment is deliberately very difficult to invoke and is primarily intended for the transfer of power when the president is effectively incapacitated and not merely because he stumbled over a few words in a speech.

[DivineOb]

Already done - it's called the 25th Amendment.

Theoretically yes. But it wasn't invoked against Reagan so in practical terms no. And Trump has shown how easy it is to surround yourselves with loyalists who will never support the president's removal so doubly no.

[DivineOb]

Yes, and the 25th Amendment is deliberately very difficult to invoke and is primarily intended for the transfer of power when the president is effectively incapacitated and not merely because he stumbled over a few words in a speech.

MM did you watch the video I posted?

[rogue06]

I'm not claiming Trump snorted Sudafed. The claim is he snorts Adderall. Your link is irrelevant.

Even your first source, Newsweek, wasn't able to confirm that Arnold's "co-witness" (and likely the sole source for the story to which Arnold glommed onto) ever even worked on The Apprentice making it highly doubtful that he saw what he alleges.

So your sources are someone who has been hyping stories that the New York Times called a "nothingbuffet" (someone who makes the late Art Bell or Alex Jones look like fonts of reliable information and the gospel truth) and a guy who wasn't there.

Yeah, that's sure some "documentation" you have there

[rogue06]

It took a minute to find an example:

Obama is a powerfully effective orator -- but only when he reads from a teleprompter. When he can't he sounds like a High School kid giving an oral report.

[mossrose]

Obama is a powerfully effective orator -- but only when he reads from a teleprompter. When he can't he sounds like a High School kid giving an oral report.

I think you've just insulted every high school kid ever.

[lilpixieofterror]

Except we know that Trump's doctors lie, at least about his height.

So nothing, of consequence. Just a crazy conspiracy theory easily explained by being up for several days and stress.

[DivineOb]

Can I please get a show of hands from the Trump supporters who watched my video? Don't @ me about other stuff until you do.

[lilpixieofterror]

Can I please get a show of hands from the Trump supporters who watched my video? Don't @ me about other stuff until you do.

I did, did you bother to look up the effects of sleep deprivation? Slurred speech is a common sign. Again, no conspiracy required.

[rogue06]

I think you've just insulted every high school kid ever.

I actually got an A for a book report for a non-existent book that I made up out of whole cloth an hour before I presented it.


I credit the fact that when I was a young'un my father used to host Dale Carnegie public speaking seminars in our living room twice a week for the salesmen under him (at the time he was the Assistant Regional Sales Manager for Chrysler).

After listening to the same presentation literally dozens of times I can pretty much give a speech instinctively. My only weakness is at the introduction when I'm still a bit nervous.

[rogue06]

Can I please get a show of hands from the Trump supporters who watched my video? Don't @ me about other stuff until you do.

The fact that I cited one of your own sources back at you should suffice to answer that question.

[Mountain Man]

I actually got an A for a book report for a non-existent book that I made up out of whole cloth an hour before I presented it.


I credit the fact that when I was a young'un my father used to host Dale Carnegie public speaking seminars in our living room twice a week for the salesmen under him (at the time he was the Assistant Regional Sales Manager for Chrysler).

After listening to the same presentation literally dozens of times I can pretty much give a speech instinctively. My only weakness is at the introduction when I'm still a bit nervous.

One of my crowning moments in my college public speaking class was when I gave a 15-minute extemporaneous speech. And I was completely honest about it in my self evaluation. We were supposed to study and practice in front of friends, and so on, but I told my instructor, "Nope, I just made it up on the spot." I got an A.

[DivineOb]

Biden seems to have dementia too, which is one reason I think it's crucial that Bernie rather than Biden be the Dem nominee.

The fact that Bernie just had a heart attack doesn't concern you at all? My nightmare scenario is he is the nominee and has another one in, say, October. Hard to believe he could win if that happened.

Mandatory 3rd party health-testing and publication of the results could be worthwhile though, along with mandatory releasing of tax returns.

You're right that we can't bake any maximum age restrictions in. Argh. Well, we'll have to figure something out. Obviously I'd prefer a parliamentary system like you suggest but uhh... it's a tall order to get there from here :).

[DivineOb]

I did, did you bother to look up the effects of sleep deprivation? Slurred speech is a common sign. Again, no conspiracy required.

As someone who was sleep deprived for around a decade due to medical reasons I'm well aware :). But his his word salad wasn't slurred in those clips so that can't be it. Also there are prescription drugs you can take which make you right as rain no matter how little sleep you've gotten. I've taken Provigil a few times in my life and it's like a miracle how awake and aware it makes you in minutes even after staying up the entire night.