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  • #46
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    All sarcasm aside, you do know that historians and biographers tend to believe that Wallace was not racist but did what he thought was necessary to hold onto power.



    And I'm sure that it is just a coincidence that at the same time that the Democrats lost their stranglehold on the South that the region began to prosper economically.
    But any historian with an ounce of integrity? Maybe an historian who is a neo Confederate intellectual proponent of Lost Cause mythology. There are even historian who see the NRA's founding as protection of black freedmen fro Klan terrorism.

    The only way Wallace was not racist is if segregation, codified into law, is not racist, if denial of black citizens the right to vote is not racist, if separate (but "equal") health care is not racist.

    Any links? I think it goes without saying that Wallace was simcere when he made his famous "Segregation forever".

    Edit to add: I am open to the possibility hat his later repentance was genuine, but I do have doubts.
    Last edited by simplicio; 01-13-2020, 07:39 AM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
      He thinks the South started voting Republican in the 1960's - and yes, I've explained otherwise, both patiently and not at all patiently. He wants desperately to believe the True Democrats TM were never the racist dogs he knows darn well they were... and are. Somehow, if the South was always Republican (history screams otherwise) then his beloved Democrats were never racists and all is right with the world.

      He's not this nuts when Trump isn't president - thus far, spiking his coffee with lithium isn't helping...
      Just about all the old codgers I know in Texas were Democrats when they were younger, and declare "the party left me".
      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Just about all the old codgers I know in Texas were Democrats when they were younger, and declare "the party left me".
        Did those old dodgers agree with the program of federally mandated integration, or see it as an over reach of authority?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by simplicio View Post
          Did those old dodgers agree with the program of federally mandated integration, or see it as an over reach of authority?
          I actually only knew one old codger who was adamant about blacks and whites being separate and NOT equal, and he was pretty well known as a nut.

          I'm trying to think of any conversation where there was actually a debate about integration, because I think most of the people I knew just assumed it was going to happen.
          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            I actually only knew one old codger who was adamant about blacks and whites being separate and NOT equal, and he was pretty well known as a nut.

            I'm trying to think of any conversation where there was actually a debate about integration, because I think most of the people I knew just assumed it was going to happen.
            Seems no one actually supported segregation. I wonder how it just happened?

            But we do have an answer, the racist Democrats imposed on the hapless voters of those states.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by simplicio View Post
              Seems no one actually supported segregation. I wonder how it just happened?
              Perhaps I needed to wide my circle of acquaintances?

              But we do have an answer, the racist Democrats imposed on the hapless voters of those states.
              Sure, Simp - whatever you say.
              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Perhaps I needed to wide my circle of acquaintances?



                Sure, Simp - whatever you say.
                It does seem to be the main theme from quite a few posters, people are not racist, the Dems are.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                  It does seem to be the main theme from quite a few posters, people are not racist, the Dems are.
                  I think racist people are racist.

                  And I think the reason the Dems get tagged with racism is because they're consumed with it.
                  "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I think racist people are racist.

                    And I think the reason the Dems get tagged with racism is because they're consumed with it.
                    The only time the dems get tagged with racism is when republicans react to their pointing out the racism that has found a home in the republican party. It isn't that republicans themselves are all racists, obviously not, but he KKK, the Alt right, the white supremecists, the neo-nazis, the anti-semites are all quite comfortable in todays republican party. Any idea why that is the case?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      The only time the dems get tagged with racism...
                      Is when all they talk about is race, when people should just be people.
                      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Is when all they talk about is race, when people should just be people.
                        Except that they don't always just talk about race, they talk about racism when they see it, as they should. Saying that people should just shut up about it is just a way of ignoring the problem of racism in your party.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Except that they don't always just talk about race...
                          Yeah, sometimes they screw things up so badly they have to deal with reverse-discrimination issues.
                          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            Saying that people should just shut up about it is just a way of ignoring the problem of racism in your party.
                            A) Nobody said they should "just shut up about it" - that's rather dishonest on your part.
                            2) As or "my party" - I'm an independent.
                            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              A) Nobody said they should "just shut up about it" - that's rather dishonest on your part.
                              Well, what else did you mean by "all they talk about is race, when people should just be people?"

                              2) As or "my party" - I'm an independent.
                              Yes, I know, but what does that mean in your case. A wolf in sheeps clothing, perhaps? An Ino?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                Yes, I know, but what does that mean in your case.
                                It means I'm an independent.

                                A wolf in sheeps clothing, perhaps? An Ino?
                                That doesn't even make sense.
                                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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