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Obama, Trump Tie as Most Admired Man in 2019

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post


    And the funniest part of this is that I suspect you genuinely actually believe that.
    You forgot this part:

    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    And all his political enemies can do in response is impotently mock him.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Worth noting for the US conservatives here that internationally, jokes about Trump and getting enjoyment out of Trump's over-the-top-crazy are commonplace. But this doesn't actually translate at all into a love of Trump.
      That's rather common knowledge. Obama was the global president, getting a Peace Prize for doing nothing more than breathing (oh, he did authorize spying on Merkel and Macron). Trump is the opposite, getting vitriol from all corners because he's considered lowly by world elitists.

      I'm quite happy about it myself. Angry world leaders likely means they aren't able to freeload on US tax dollars as easily as they did with Obama.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
        That's rather common knowledge. Obama was the global president, getting a Peace Prize for doing nothing more than breathing (oh, he did authorize spying on Merkel and Macron). Trump is the opposite, getting vitriol from all corners because he's considered lowly by world elitists.

        I'm quite happy about it myself. Angry world leaders likely means they aren't able to freeload on US tax dollars as easily as they did with Obama.
        Other countries only love the US when we're losing.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ronson View Post
          Trump is the opposite, getting vitriol from all corners because he's considered lowly by world elitists.
          The survey results I gave were of common citizens in countries around the world, not world elitists.
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            The survey results I gave were of common citizens in countries around the world, not world elitists.
            It trickles down. The Windsors say "Ooooh my! That barbarian is uncouth", and then the unwashed masses parrot the sentiment. We've always had the "ugly American" moniker so it's nothing new.

            The main thing is US president doesn't need to win any world popularity contest. They don't vote for him, and he doesn't work for them.

            EDIT TO ADD: I happen to agree that Trump is a buffoon. He is a good butt for jokes and a ridiculous figure. But he is reversing the US "regime change" policy of past administrations and putting the brakes on US participation in globalism. I applaud both.
            Last edited by Ronson; 12-31-2019, 09:22 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by seer View Post
              Interesting, even with all the bad press for Trump....

              WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Barack Obama and Donald Trump are tied this year as the most admired man. It is Obama's 12th time in the top spot versus the first for Trump.

              https://news.gallup.com/poll/273125/...-man-2019.aspx
              Most admired by americans not by the world, and that is based a 1000 person poll. Not all that surprising being that this country is politically divided and Trump, the current president, still came in second to Obama whose been out of the picture for 3 years. Besides, in his case I'm sure it's not the man himself that is admired, even many conservatives agree to that.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Meanwhile, Trump is quietly accumulating a substantial list of tangible accomplishments, the effects of which will continue to have a positive impact for decades.

                https://www.docdroid.net/KDaSuMo/tru...plishments.pdf
                That list looks rather padded, several points are listed multiple times albeit with different names.

                But Trump indeed has been a completely okay US president, I won't deny that.

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