Christianity Today Op Ed

[oxmixmudd]

You might could explain to JimL that Warren is, indeed, very much pro-abortion, and that "abortion on demand" is simply a term to express that.

Because democrats are all 'pro abortion' it should be clear I don't consider that issue the same level of threat as I do Trumps reckless disregard for the ideals of our republic and his consistent pressure to change the presidency from one of three co-equal branches of government to the most powerful branch of government. That and his blatant disregard for the rule of law and his capacity to pervert normally moral people into supporting him in that quest.

That is not because I don't think abortion on demand is bad, or that I don't vigorously oppose moves to open wide third trimester and late term abortions. It's just that I see Trump's threat to our country as of a more critical nature at the current time.

[JimL]

You're playing down systemic corruption in government way too much here, and it's either your TDS blinding you or your naivety (or denial) about how corrupt the system is.

Trump ran on draining the swamp, he instead filled it, himself being the biggest corrupt inhabitant of all.

[oxmixmudd]

You're playing down systemic corruption in government way too much here, and it's either your TDS blinding you or your naivety (or denial) about how corrupt the system is.

TDS is a derogatory gaslighting term implying a mental impairment in those that oppose Trump. I normally don't consider posts by people using the term worth responding to.

[seanD]

Trump ran on draining the swamp, he instead filled it, himself being the biggest corrupt inhabitant of all.

So you agree, the swamp (the governmental system) was corrupt prior. This is true.

[oxmixmudd]

Trump ran on draining the swamp, he instead filled it, himself being the biggest corrupt inhabitant of all.

He didn't just fill it, he added an even fouler stench to it.

[seanD]

TDS is a derogatory gaslighting term implying a mental impairment in those that oppose Trump. I normally don't consider posts by people using the term worth responding to.

I don't normally use terms like that in my exchanges with others on here. But TDS is just so true. I've never seen anything like it. What's so astonishing to me is that the TDS echo chamber left focuses on some of the most trivial things about Trump, yet completely ignores things that justify actual criticism.

[JimL]

Because democrats are all 'pro abortion' it should be clear I don't consider that issue the same level of threat as I do Trumps reckless disregard for the ideals of our republic and his consistent pressure to change the presidency from one of three co-equal branches of government to the most powerful branch of government. That and his blatant disregard for the rule of law and his capacity to pervert normally moral people into supporting him in that quest.

That is not because I don't think abortion on demand is bad, or that I don't vigorously oppose moves to open wide third trimester and late term abortions. It's just that I see Trump's threat to our country as of a more critical nature at the current time.

In other words this is still a democracy even if you don't personally agree with abortion. Some people seem to want an autocracy not realizing that once they have it their personal views no longer have any sway.

[Cow Poke]

She's pro abortion according to the Supreme court ruling, Roe v Wade, not abortion on demand or abortion up until birth as you asserted.

You totally ignored the definition of "abortion on demand" that fits her to a tee - and when she is against ANY restriction on abortion, that justifies the "until birth".

Jim, your liberal hero babykillers used to say abortion should be "safe, legal and rare". They have LONG AGO abandoned the "rare".

[JimL]

So you agree, the swamp (the governmental system) was corrupt prior. This is true.

Of course there is corruption, that's why we need get the money out of politics. But you did just the opposite, you elected a corrupt money hungry autocrat who only made things worse.

[JimL]

You totally ignored the definition of "abortion on demand" that fits her to a tee - and when she is against ANY restriction on abortion, that justifies the "until birth".

Jim, your liberal hero babykillers used to say abortion should be "safe, legal and rare". They have LONG AGO abandoned the "rare".

No, they haven't, CP. Roe v Wade is the law of the land and that is what Warren supports, not "abortion on demand" or "abortion up until birth." That's just your hyperbole.

[Cow Poke]

No, they haven't, CP. Roe v Wade is the law of the land and that is what Warren supports, not "abortion on demand" or "abortion up until birth." That's just your hyperbole.

I'm going to leave you to your profound stubborn ignorance, Jim -- you can have the last word.

[JimL]

I'm going to leave you to your profound stubborn ignorance, Jim -- you can have the last word.

Don't forget your ball.

[Starlight]

TDS is a derogatory gaslighting term implying a mental impairment in those that oppose Trump. I normally don't consider posts by people using the term worth responding to.

I consider TDS to be a mental disorder where people support Trump no matter what he says or does, regardless of how corruptly or immorally he acts. And particularly where their support is of the form "He'S tHe BeSt EveR!!!! BeSt PreSiDenT oF My LiFeTimE!!!" rather than "well I grant that he's got many issues, and is a bad person, but at the end of the day he's a Republican and I'm a Republican so I'm going to half-heartedly support him".

[Tassman]

Yes, this is a common lie from the enemies of the cross and their associates.

Is Christianity Today an "enemy of the cross"? Christianity Today's editor-in-chief said Trump violated the Constitution and questioned his high level of support among evangelicals in light of his "blackened moral record" — suggesting that support damages the community's reputation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/evan...office-2019-12

[seanD]

I consider TDS to be a mental disorder where people support Trump no matter what he says or does, regardless of how corruptly or immorally he acts. And particularly where their support is of the form "He'S tHe BeSt EveR!!!! BeSt PreSiDenT oF My LiFeTimE!!!" rather than "well I grant that he's got many issues, and is a bad person, but at the end of the day he's a Republican and I'm a Republican so I'm going to half-heartedly support him".

TDS can definitely apply to staunch pro-Trump supporters, no doubt. But what you stated at the end describes pretty much every conservative in here. They know he has terrible character flaws and they acknowledge that. One perfect example of TDS in the anti-Trump camp is the fact they keep crying about how corrupt Trump is and that he should be impeached because of that, and that the facts are indisputable that backs impeachment, yet the polls keep shifting to the contrary. So either you folks have TDS and can't see the facts clearly because of that, or there's something wrong with the rest of the populace being polled... or, of course, another favorite argument you use is that the polls are flawed. Yet, IMO, it's more likely the polls are accurate in this regard because I believe people have a natural tendency to hide their support for Trump because of the public stigma.