False Idol — Why the Christian Right Worships Donald Trump

[Mountain Man]

You have supported trump in his most vile and degrading moments Mm. Your spin on your position doesn't fly.

Right.

[oxmixmudd]

Right.

indeed it is right MM. We could review, but I know that would not be received, so there is no point. But you are THE quintessential Trump supporter in this forum, more than anyone else you are the man in the MAGA hat defending Trump from all detractors big and small.

[Mountain Man]

indeed it is right MM. We could review, but I know that would not be received, so there is no point. But you are THE quintessential Trump supporter in this forum, more than anyone else you are the man in the MAGA hat defending Trump from all detractors big and small.

Right.

[oxmixmudd]

Right.

your record appears to be stuck in the same groove

[Mountain Man]

your record appears to be stuck in the same groove

I see myself more as the Nick Sandmann type who wears a tolerant smile while virulent anti-Trumpers like you beat a drum in my face.

[whag]

I see myself more as the Nick Sandmann type who wears a tolerant smile while virulent anti-Trumpers like you beat a drum in my face.

The honest thing to do is to admit Trump is no different than the Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama fandoms that preceded him. I used to defend Obama until I realized he’s just another cult of personality.

With Trump, his demagoguery is more in the open. His pandering is far more pronounced and less hidden, probably because Trump already has said he can shoot someone without his base caring. You have been duped into believing he is refreshing and progressive.

[Mountain Man]

I used to defend Obama until I realized he’s just another cult of personality.

I have a theory that the anti-Trump contingent responds the way it does because they mistakenly think we worship Trump the way they worshipped Obama.

[whag]

I have a theory that the anti-Trump contingent responds the way it does because they mistakenly think we worship Trump the way they worshipped Obama.

There is zero evidence otherwise. Obama had bootlickers and divine references, he but never surrounded himself with televangelists laying hands on him and supporters making signs referencing divine appointment. Trump is guilty of both.

Moreover, you seem to think Trump is a refreshing maverick and progressive when he’s actually just being an open Mussolini-like demagogue, with that stupid name calling and retarded smirk. You worship both him and that approach.

[Mountain Man]

There is zero evidence otherwise. Obama had bootlickers and divine references, he but never surrounded himself with televangelists laying hands on him and supporters making signs referencing divine appointment. Trump is guilty of both.

You had to have been asleep from 2008 to 2016 if you don't remember the fawning, religious-like reverence with which Obama was treated by liberals.

Moreover, you seem to think Trump is a refreshing maverick and progressive when he’s actually just being an open Mussolini-like demagogue, with that stupid name calling and retarded smirk. You worship both him and that approach.

I worship the Almighty God and none other.

[whag]

You had to have been asleep from 2008 to 2016 if you don't remember the fawning, religious-like reverence with which Obama was treated by liberals.

You have to be blind and pig ignorant to not see televangelists literally laid hands on Trump and serve as his spiritual advisors.

I worship the Almighty God and none other.

Precisely the mantra of those televangelists.

[One Bad Pig]

You have to be blind and pig ignorant to not see televangelists literally laid hands on Trump and serve as his spiritual advisors.

That's not worship. Ironic that you're calling MM ignorant while exposing your own ignorance.

[oxmixmudd]

I have a theory that the anti-Trump contingent responds the way it does because they mistakenly think we worship Trump the way they worshipped Obama.

Since I was never a fan of Obama (or Hillary), you would be wrong

[Leonhard]

After reflecting on politics, and participating in a lot of political discussions I think I now see partisanship as inherently human. We tend to root for our team, find the mistakes done 'on our side' forgivable, and blow out of proportion problems on the other side. As long as this doesn't interfere with a factful discussion, I think its perfectly fine now, and there's no reason to be at war with it.

I for one have decided to bow out of pointing out partisanship on the other side. I won't stop talking about facts, but beyond that, I expect Republicans to be Republicans now.

[whag]

That's not worship. Ironic that you're calling MM ignorant while exposing your own ignorance.

If anything short of literally praying to someone or something isn’t worship, then you can’t say anything is worship. That invalidates the OP but also MM’s counterargument. The truth is that blind loyalty to any POTUS is somewhere in between. Since I regard all the presidents since Reagan cults of personality, then I’m not among this group.

[whag]

After reflecting on politics, and participating in a lot of political discussions I think I now see partisanship as inherently human. We tend to root for our team, find the mistakes done 'on our side' forgivable, and blow out of proportion problems on the other side. As long as this doesn't interfere with a factful discussion, I think its perfectly fine now, and there's no reason to be at war with it.

I for one have decided to bow out of pointing out partisanship on the other side. I won't stop talking about facts, but beyond that, I expect Republicans to be Republicans now.

Europeans are much more sensible and self aware than citizens of the U.S.