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  • #46
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    And so much "we were there first" or "we were there exclusively".... much more interest in being first than being correct.
    Heck no. They don't care about being exclusive on the Interwebz. They routinely copy articles from other sites and present it as their own story with a tag line like "as reported in this other blog" or "here are a bunch of tweets we found on twitter that we are copy pasting as a news story"

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    • #47
      Originally posted by JimL View Post
      Right, and Nixon was innocent too and would never have been impeached if only we had real, honest journalism at the time, like say a Sean Hannity, or a Rush Linbaugh.
      Nixon wasn't impeached Jim.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        Nixon was on his way to impeachment because Congress had hard evidence that a crime had actually been committed ...
        Wait!! You mean there was an actual undeniable crime BEFORE impeachment began?!?!
        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          Heck no. They don't care about being exclusive on the Interwebz. They routinely copy articles from other sites and present it as their own story with a tag line like "as reported in this other blog" or "here are a bunch of tweets we found on twitter that we are copy pasting as a news story"
          Or they'll try to give a story legitimacy by saying, "This has been reported by these other publications," despite the fact they're all quoting from the same source.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            Nixon was on his way to impeachment because Congress had hard evidence that a crime had actually been committed and not because of "real, honest journalism". In fact, I read an interesting article this past year about how Woodward and Bernstein (which I still think sound like a pair of Broadway composers) weren't entirely honest about who Deepthroat was and what he really knew, were flat out wrong about some critical details, and completely missed that Nixon himself had perpetrated a coverup, which was the most damning piece of evidence to come out of the impeachment inquiry.

            But you go ahead and keep believing the myth that a pair of journalists and their anonymous source took down an American president.
            Yes, and do you remember what the crime was that was the cause of the impeachment Inquiry into Nixon? I'll tell you. It was the attempt by Nixon to have his attorney general fire the special prosecutor. Trump did that a long time ago when he tried and failed to get Mcgahn, Jeff Sessions, and his former campaign manager, can't remember the losers name, to fire Mueller. Trumps already been given far more leeway than was Nixon.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Nixon wasn't impeached Jim.
              Yes, but only because he resigned after his Republican defenders in Congress told him that it was a forgone conclusion.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                Yes, and do you remember what the crime was that was the cause of the impeachment Inquiry into Nixon? I'll tell you. It was the attempt by Nixon to have his attorney general fire the special prosecutor. Trump did that a long time ago when he tried and failed to get Mcgahn, Jeff Sessions, and his former campaign manager, can't remember the losers name, to fire Mueller. Trumps already been given far more leeway than was Nixon.
                It started with an actual undeniable crime - the June 17, 1972, break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Office Building.
                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Wait!! You mean there was an actual undeniable crime BEFORE impeachment began?!?!
                  Nixon wasn't impeached.
                  "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Charles View Post
                    Nixon wasn't impeached.
                    Yes, we know that... but the process was begun. Note the word "began"?

                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Wait!! You mean there was an actual undeniable crime BEFORE impeachment began?!?!
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Charles
                      So you are now claiming impeachment began? When?
                      You really could DuckDuckGo this for yourself, Charles.

                      On Saturday, July 27, the House Judiciary Committee approved its first article of impeachment charging President Nixon with obstruction of justice. Six of the Committee's 17 Republicans joined all 21 Democrats in voting for the article. The following Monday the Committee approved its second article charging Nixon with abuse of power. The next day, the third and final article, contempt of Congress, was approved.


                      The impeachment process was in full swing when Nixon resigned. Perhaps you're confusing the impeachment process in the House (which was happening) with the trial in the Senate - which never happened, due to Nixon's resignation DURING the impeachment phase.
                      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        You really could DuckDuckGo this for yourself, Charles.

                        On Saturday, July 27, the House Judiciary Committee approved its first article of impeachment charging President Nixon with obstruction of justice. Six of the Committee's 17 Republicans joined all 21 Democrats in voting for the article. The following Monday the Committee approved its second article charging Nixon with abuse of power. The next day, the third and final article, contempt of Congress, was approved.


                        The impeachment process was in full swing when Nixon resigned. Perhaps you're confusing the impeachment process in the House (which was happening) with the trial in the Senate - which never happened, due to Nixon's resignation DURING the impeachment phase.
                        Thanks, but your original post was not about "impeachment process" but simply about "impeachment". I was confused by that but English is not my main language so that might explain it.
                        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Charles View Post
                          Thanks, but your original post was not about "impeachment process" but simply about "impeachment". I was confused by that but English is not my main language so that might explain it.
                          A lot of people get confused because impeachment is such an odd animal.

                          Here's a pretty good article on the overall impeachment (attempt) of Richard Nixon.

                          Articles of impeachment had, in fact, been drafted and approved by the House Judiciary Committee.
                          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            It started with an actual undeniable crime - the June 17, 1972, break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Office Building.
                            The impeachment inquiry started with the Saturday night massacre, when Nixon fired his Attorney general et. al. for not firing the special prosecutor.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                              The impeachment inquiry started with the Saturday night massacre, when Nixon fired his Attorney general et. al. for not firing the special prosecutor.
                              You're uninformed. Read the link Cow Poke helpfully provided if you want the real facts, but the short version is the whole thing started because of an actual crime: the Watergate break-in. This was followed by arrests and convictions through which hard evidence was discovered that led straight back to the Oval Office. This prompted the Senate to appoint a special prosecutor who uncovered even more damning evidence, including public testimony from firsthand witnesses that Nixon had orchestrated the break-in, was involved in a cover-up, and that he had personally bribed the Watergate "burglars" to keep their mouths shut. It was around this time that Nixon attempted to have the special prosecutor fired. It was only then, after it was clear that Nixon was deeply involved in criminal activity, that there were calls for his impeachment.

                              Contrast this with Mueller being appointed to investigate Trump without a crime ever having been committed!
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                You're uninformed. Read the link Cow Poke helpfully provided if you want the real facts, but the short version is the whole thing started because of an actual crime: the Watergate break-in. This was followed by arrests and convictions through which hard evidence was discovered that led straight back to the Oval Office. This prompted the Senate to appoint a special prosecutor who uncovered even more damning evidence, including public testimony from firsthand witnesses that Nixon had orchestrated the break-in, was involved in a cover-up, and that he had personally bribed the Watergate "burglars" to keep their mouths shut. It was around this time that Nixon attempted to have the special prosecutor fired. It was only then, after it was clear that Nixon was deeply involved in criminal activity, that there were calls for his impeachment.

                                Contrast this with Mueller being appointed to investigate Trump without a crime ever having been committed!
                                Well it’s not like Trump didn’t demand loyalty of Comey, ask him to exonerate Flynn, and then fire him after Comey (way too politely) rebuffed POTUS for such reckless asks. That wasn’t suspicious at all.

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