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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I wonder if you appear this bitter in real life.
    Given nobody's ever called me bitter in real life, I guess it's just you.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Given nobody's ever called me bitter in real life, I guess it's just you.
      Well, nobody's ever called me bitter in real life - in fact, quite the opposite. So, maybe you're only bitter on discussion boards.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        I'm just tired of the Republican crime syndicate and their endless criminality. Since Nixon they've become the party of doing-crimes. Here's the crimes per presidential administration:



        Overall here's the crimes per year:



        The difference between Republicans and Democrats is stark. One appears to be a crime syndicate. The other simply isn't. At what point should authorities simply declare the entire Republican party to be a corrupt criminal organisation and file a RICO suit against the entire party?

        So far in Trump's Presidency, his campaign chair has been convicted, so has his deputy campaign chair, so has his foreign policy adviser, so has his longstanding political adviser, so has his national security adviser, and so has his longtime friend and personal lawyer. And currently things are looking pretty bleak (in terms of forthcoming criminal convictions) for his longtime friend and replacement personal lawyer (Rudy). (And today I'm seeing articles saying there's now proof that Trump's Attorney General lied to congress about FBI spying, and calling for the Attorney General's impeachment.)

        And yet the Trump's administration's wanton criminality and numerous convictions across a wide range of people and charges, are normal for post-Eisenhower Republican Presidents. Since Nixon, the Republicans have been the party of wanton criminality in office. Pretty much anytime there has been any sort of investigation into any Republican officials, it seems to find prosecutable-criminality.

        And yet the ignorant and gullible Republican voters act as if it's the Democrats who are the ones doing all the crimes, when in fact the record of history shows that the Democrats almost never do any crimes ever. There was literally 40 years of Republican hysteria and investigations about the Clintons being some sort of crime overlords who did everything from killing Vince Foster to sending emails... yet nothing came of it (save finding Bill once denied an affair he'd had, like every man to ever have one). The crazy Republicans did eight investigations into Benghazi, with each investigation finding no criminal conduct by Democrats.

        And yet the Republican voters don't ever seem to learn the basic facts that their own party over and over again does criminal conduct, gets caught, and gets convicted, whereas their endless investigations into Democrats find no criminality being done by Democrats. They just endlessly spin baseless conspiracy theories about supposed Democrat crimes, with zero acknowledgement that all their conspiracy theories about Democratic crimes have been wrong for the last 40 years straight. Meanwhile they have their heads firmly in the sand about Republican convictions, Republican indictments, and alleged Republican criminal conduct.

        And their latest trick appears to be projecting onto random democrats whatever crimes Republicans appear to have done. In this instance, Trump and Kushner's dealings with the Gulf nations look pretty criminal, so someone's picked Dem Ilhan Omar, and claimed it's Totally Her who has criminal dealings with the Gulf nations. And the gullible Republican base laps up this latest baseless conspiracy, while ignoring their own side's crimes. I'm not bitter, I'm just disgusted by the endless criminality of Republicans. My father has worked in white-collar law enforcement for 30 years and so growing up I learned a love for justice and an understanding of why it is important for society that people in power not get away with crimes. The Republican base's willingness to let their party's endless crimes go unexamined and unpunished is shocking and horrifying to me, as is their love of crazy conspiracy theories that imagine all sorts of crimes being done by Democrats which never turn out to be true. And that they never seem to learn from this is quite frustrating to me as a scientist myself, because learning from the data is a core element in rational thought, so I find the Republican base's sheer irrationality stunning.
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          I'm just tired of the Republican crime syndicate and their endless criminality. Since Nixon they've become the party of doing-crimes. Here's the crimes per presidential administration:



          Overall here's the crimes per year:



          The difference between Republicans and Democrats is stark. One appears to be a crime syndicate. The other simply isn't. At what point should authorities simply declare the entire Republican party to be a corrupt criminal organisation and file a RICO suit against the entire party?

          So far in Trump's Presidency, his campaign chair has been convicted, so has his deputy campaign chair, so has his foreign policy adviser, so has his longstanding political adviser, so has his national security adviser, and so has his longtime friend and personal lawyer. And currently things are looking pretty bleak (in terms of forthcoming criminal convictions) for his longtime friend and replacement personal lawyer (Rudy). (And today I'm seeing articles saying there's now proof that Trump's Attorney General lied to congress about FBI spying, and calling for the Attorney General's impeachment.)

          And yet the Trump's administration's wanton criminality and numerous convictions across a wide range of people and charges, are normal for post-Eisenhower Republican Presidents. Since Nixon, the Republicans have been the party of wanton criminality in office. Pretty much anytime there has been any sort of investigation into any Republican officials, it seems to find prosecutable-criminality.

          And yet the ignorant and gullible Republican voters act as if it's the Democrats who are the ones doing all the crimes, when in fact the record of history shows that the Democrats almost never do any crimes ever. There was literally 40 years of Republican hysteria and investigations about the Clintons being some sort of crime overlords who did everything from killing Vince Foster to sending emails... yet nothing came of it (save finding Bill once denied an affair he'd had, like every man to ever have one). The crazy Republicans did eight investigations into Benghazi, with each investigation finding no criminal conduct by Democrats.

          And yet the Republican voters don't ever seem to learn the basic facts that their own party over and over again does criminal conduct, gets caught, and gets convicted, whereas their endless investigations into Democrats find no criminality being done by Democrats. They just endlessly spin baseless conspiracy theories about supposed Democrat crimes, with zero acknowledgement that all their conspiracy theories about Democratic crimes have been wrong for the last 40 years straight. Meanwhile they have their heads firmly in the sand about Republican convictions, Republican indictments, and alleged Republican criminal conduct.

          And their latest trick appears to be projecting onto random democrats whatever crimes Republicans appear to have done. In this instance, Trump and Kushner's dealings with the Gulf nations look pretty criminal, so someone's picked Dem Ilhan Omar, and claimed it's Totally Her who has criminal dealings with the Gulf nations. And the gullible Republican base laps up this latest baseless conspiracy, while ignoring their own side's crimes. I'm not bitter, I'm just disgusted by the endless criminality of Republicans. My father has worked in white-collar law enforcement for 30 years and so growing up I learned a love for justice and an understanding of why it is important for society that people in power not get away with crimes. The Republican base's willingness to let their party's endless crimes go unexamined and unpunished is shocking and horrifying to me, as is their love of crazy conspiracy theories that imagine all sorts of crimes being done by Democrats which never turn out to be true. And that they never seem to learn from this is quite frustrating to me as a scientist myself, because learning from the data is a core element in rational thought, so I find the Republican base's sheer irrationality stunning.
          The fact many house members are millionaires who do absolutely nothing but career politicking in and of itself is pretty evident of systemic corruption. Look at the (alleged) campaign funding scandals surrounding Omar and AOC, and they're just freshman. Someone like McConnell or Pelosi goes without saying, yet pretty much no one's naive about this.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
            Full deposition naming Omar also names Sarsour and Kushner as Qatari assets

            "We recruited both, Republicans and Democrats, but that's not good enough. We want to rule the White House," the Qataris allegedly said.

            By DONNA RACHEL EDMUNDS
            NOVEMBER 27, 2019 01:18
            Explosive testimony given in a Florida court, naming Ilhan Omar as a Qatari asset, also implicated a number of other prominent American citizens, including political activist Linda Sarsour and senior advisor to United States President Donald Trump, Jared Kushner.

            I literally laughed out loud at the thought of Qatari ministers trying to get a Kuwaiti-born Canadian to recruit American politicians. Qatar, target of the GCC embargo in 2017, recruiting a Kuwaiti. High officials, even. That's some seriously slack-jawed goobering, preacher.
            He does try hard though.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              He does try hard though.
              Actually, it wasn't hard at all. Just posted something for discussion along with the question....

              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Anybody know any more about this?
              Because I had noted that only the Egyptians and Israelis seemed to be reporting it.

              But, thanks for trying, Jim. I'm sure Juvenal holds you in the highest esteem.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Actually, it wasn't hard at all. Just posted something for discussion along with the question....



                Because I had noted that only the Egyptians and Israelis seemed to be reporting it.

                But, thanks for trying, Jim. I'm sure Juvenal holds you in the highest esteem.
                Thing is every time you cite something, a rumor, "just for discussion" it's about a liberal that you mean to denigrate just by citing it.
                Last edited by JimL; 11-30-2019, 10:52 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  I'm just tired of the Republican crime syndicate and their endless criminality. Since Nixon they've become the party of doing-crimes. Here's the crimes per presidential administration:

                  Have you completely lost your marbles? The best criminals don't get caught and their crimes brought home to them, Al Capone could only be charged with tax crimes, and the Clintons are still free.

                  All this says is that Democrats have more influence over judges and prosecution, e.g. that Obama and his buddy Attorney General protected his friends and allies.
                  Last edited by demi-conservative; 11-30-2019, 11:13 PM.
                  Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                    Have you completely lost your marbles? The best criminals don't get caught, Al Capone could only be charged with tax crimes, and the Clintons are still free.
                    There's also the fact that Republicans don't seem to have the stomach for endless investigations and witch hunts like the Democrats, which naturally leads to fewer Democrats getting caught.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                      Have you completely lost your marbles? The best criminals don't get caught and their crimes brought home to them, Al Capone could only be charged with tax crimes, and the Clintons are still free.

                      All this says is that Democrats have more influence over judges and prosecution, e.g. that Obama and his buddy Attorney General protected his friends and allies.
                      That's a good one Demi, the republicans are criminals, they're just to stupid to get away with it. I know, you're just trying to help, but I guess your just to stupid to help.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        There's also the fact that Republicans don't seem to have the stomach for endless investigations and witch hunts like the Democrats, which naturally leads to fewer Democrats getting caught.
                        Ha! You guys are just too funny. Benghazi ring a bell?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          That's a good one Demi, the republicans are criminals, they're just to stupid to get away with it. I know, you're just trying to help, but I guess your just to stupid to help.
                          At this point of time, it's obvious that both party establishments are full of corrupt criminals.

                          The Swamp is bipartisan. Starlight knows very well about Clinton and co. despite his one-sided rants, but in your brainwashed state you might actually believe that the Democrat bigwigs are uncorrupt.

                          The only politician demonstrated to be uncorrupt is Donald J. Trump. If there was anything there, it would have been used against him by now, with 24/7 coverage by CNN and other Fake News. Instead we get the most mindless nothingburgers about Russian collusion, the Mueller report, and Ukraine collusion.
                          Last edited by demi-conservative; 12-01-2019, 12:50 AM.
                          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                            At this point of time, it's obvious that both party establishments are full of corrupt criminals.

                            The Swamp is bipartisan. Starlight knows very well about Clinton and co. despite his one-sided rants, but in your brainwashed state you might actually believe that the Democrat bigwigs are uncorrupt.

                            The only politician demonstrated to be uncorrupt is Donald J. Trump. If there was anything there, it would have been used against him by now, with 24/7 coverage by CNN and other Fake News. Instead we get the most mindless nothingburgers about Russian collusion, the Mueller report, and Ukraine collusion.
                            Even the conservatives here are smart enough to know that Trump is not uncorrupt, they just support him despite his corrupt nature. You know it too, don't you Demi?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Even the conservatives here are smart enough to know that Trump is not uncorrupt, they just support him despite his corrupt nature. You know it too, don't you Demi?
                              I wouldn't have dreamed that he was uncorrupt. Until all the fishing expeditions, 'Trump is going down this time, really!!!!!!!!!', leaks and show trials produced absolutely nothing. After all these efforts, they found zero dirt on him, making him exceptionally clean.

                              What all these impeachments/coup attempts have demonstrated is that Trump is amazingly clean, and have not in any way shown him guilty of crimes.
                              Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                                Have you completely lost your marbles? The best criminals don't get caught and their crimes brought home to them, Al Capone could only be charged with tax crimes, and the Clintons are still free.

                                All this says is that Democrats have more influence over judges and prosecution, e.g. that Obama and his buddy Attorney General protected his friends and allies.
                                It also shows the difference between an Administration placed under a hostile microscope from day one compared to those who weren't.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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