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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostDo localities have the right to defy state and federal laws?
Many argued that localities were overstepping their bounds when the topic was enforcement of immigration laws.
Is the second amendment the hill to stand on for Christians?Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostFalse. That just the propaganda being picked up through your tin foil hat."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOf course, why do you think we invented god in the first place?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostJim, as a lifelong gun control advocate, please stop doing this. MM is correct and we both know it. The abolitionists are masquerading as gun control advocates and undermining the legitimacy of gun control positions. If you (general) want to advocate for abolition, do it honestly and not behind more rational skirts.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI say what I mean, Tea, not what you want to think I mean. No one is trying to abolish the right of people to own guns, which should be obvious to sensible gun owners. Even your originalist Justice Scalia understood that the right wasn't unlimited.
I have no issue with the Second Amendment being limited. I think the Court was stupid to incorporate it. I fully support reasonable gun control. What I disagree with is misrepresenting the positions by pretending that there's no abolition movement within the gun control lobby.
If you (general) support abolition then say so. If you hold, as I do, that there should be rational and fair limitations on gun ownership then argue those limits. But the pretense that there is no abolition movement hurts gun control."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostDo you think the survival of the church depends on the gun? Not sure why you asked that.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostI never disputed that you speak your mind. But the claim that there is no abolition movement is patently false
I have no issue with the Second Amendment being limited. I think the Court was stupid to incorporate it. I fully support reasonable gun control. What I disagree with is misrepresenting the positions by pretending that there's no abolition movement within the gun control lobby.
If you (general) support abolition then say so. If you hold, as I do, that there should be rational and fair limitations on gun ownership then argue those limits. But the pretense that there is no abolition movement hurts gun control.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe idea that there is an abolition movement is not supported by an iota of evidence as there is not one person who has ever advocated for the complete abolition of guns. Glad to hear you're one of those advocating for reasonable limitations.
Yes, I've been a gun control advocate my entire life. Growing up around idiots that can't differentiate pets or ME from deer will do that."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostTwo Democratic presidential candidates have advocated for abolition. Hardly the only ones. You're mistaken.
Yes, I've been a gun control advocate my entire life. Growing up around idiots that can't differentiate pets or ME from deer will do that.
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostDo you think the survival of the church depends on the gun?
Not sure why you asked that.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostExactly. Banning guns is as stupid as banning cars. We finally agree on something.
It is, however, always a balance between freedom and safety. Sometimes due to practical concerns we accept some risks. Traffic is one of the greatest examples of that. Its rather dangerous, but the practicality it lends in getting around is enough that people are willing to accept that risk.
How much risk we accept is an ongoing discussion. There's no blanket answer that can be given.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostTwo Democratic presidential candidates have advocated for abolition. Hardly the only ones. You're mistaken.
Yes, I've been a gun control advocate my entire life. Growing up around idiots that can't differentiate pets or ME from deer will do that.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI believe "Beto's" reply to the question about whether he was in favor of gun confiscation was "Hell yes." At one point he tried to walk it back but this led to Politifact declaring that "We rate O’Rourke’s claim that he is “not talking about confiscating anybody’s guns” as False."
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