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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou want to go to war with Trump?
If I was you, I'd rethink that argument.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo - that's not what I said at all, and you're smart enough to know it. There are legitimate means and methods to deal with Trump. If he gets impeached and removed from office --- like I said --- I'm ready for President Pence.
The Democrats appear to have given it their best shot, and it seems, so far, to be falling flat. There's an election less than a year away.
Are you THAT insecure, Jim, that you're seeing threats where there are none? I don't even know what 'threat' you're talking about.
But I realize it's not being dense. Its having let yourself reach a point where you are no longer willing to interact with me at any level of deceny or honesty.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostA bit of advice: it's okay to laugh at yourself.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI'm not in hate mode. But saying that I am is a consistent libel of me by you.
I'm going to withdraw - it's not healthy for you and it's not fun for me. Feel free to rant without me.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostAre you that dense that you cant comprehend the words I wrote did not accuse you of making a threat but instead were just asking you what you meant because what you appeared to be saying did not make sense.
But I realize it's not being dense. Its having let yourself reach a point where you are no longer willing to interact with me at any level of deceny or honesty.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostwowMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOK, we're getting back to the whole "there are no friends" "everybody's against me" thing.....
I'm going to withdraw - it's not healthy for you and it's not fun for me. Feel free to rant without me.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostAlways acting like it's the other guy. Pretty good gig - if you can make it stick.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOK, we're getting back to the whole "there are no friends" "everybody's against me" thing.....
I'm going to withdraw - it's not healthy for you and it's not fun for me. Feel free to rant without me.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostDisengaged, Jim.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostI don't see how this even begins to actually answer oxmixmudd's point. While the example he picked may have been extreme and an example of Godwin's Law, he's still got a point as to how what you end up with once you start with the whole "God let it happen, so it's good" idea.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostI don't see how this even begins to actually answer oxmixmudd's point. While the example he picked may have been extreme and an example of Godwin's Law, he's still got a point as to how what you end up with once you start with the whole "God let it happen, so it's good" idea.
I don't believe, in the case of Hitler, that it was impossible for God to stop Hitler. God is omnipotent - He can do anything He wants whenever He wants wherever He wants. Because of the fall, man is capable of doing some pretty horrible things - God doesn't always step in and stop it. God doesn't prevent Hurricanes from drowning people... There are many consequences of 'the fall' that we don't like, but I don't think you can blame God for "not stopping them".
In the case of Hitler, the world went to war, and eventually that evil was stopped. War was the ugly remedy.
In the case of Trump, there are legitimate tools at our disposal, and they happen to be impeachment and/or the next election.
I'm good with either. I just don't see any point in 24/7 endless blogging about a guy when that has no power whatsoever to remedy the situation. I think it's unhealthy, and I think it allows Satan to drive a wedge between brothers - not over theology - but over politics.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, it's not "God let it happen so it's a good idea".
I don't believe, in the case of Hitler, that it was impossible for God to stop Hitler. God is omnipotent - He can do anything He wants whenever He wants wherever He wants. Because of the fall, man is capable of doing some pretty horrible things - God doesn't always step in and stop it. God doesn't prevent Hurricanes from drowning people... There are many consequences of 'the fall' that we don't like, but I don't think you can blame God for "not stopping them".
In the case of Hitler, the world went to war, and eventually that evil was stopped. War was the ugly remedy.
In the case of Trump, there are legitimate tools at our disposal, and they happen to be impeachment and/or the next election.
I'm good with either. I just don't see any point in 24/7 endless blogging about a guy when that has no power whatsoever to remedy the situation. I think it's unhealthy, and I think it allows Satan to drive a wedge between brothers - not over theology - but over politics.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, it's not "God let it happen so it's a good idea".
I don't believe, in the case of Hitler, that it was impossible for God to stop Hitler. God is omnipotent - He can do anything He wants whenever He wants wherever He wants. Because of the fall, man is capable of doing some pretty horrible things - God doesn't always step in and stop it. God doesn't prevent Hurricanes from drowning people... There are many consequences of 'the fall' that we don't like, but I don't think you can blame God for "not stopping them".
In the case of Hitler, the world went to war, and eventually that evil was stopped. War was the ugly remedy.
In the case of Trump, there are legitimate tools at our disposal, and they happen to be impeachment and/or the next election.
I'm good with either. I just don't see any point in 24/7 endless blogging about a guy when that has no power whatsoever to remedy the situation. I think it's unhealthy, and I think it allows Satan to drive a wedge between brothers - not over theology - but over politics.
The problem is that that doesn't really relate to the whole "well, God allowed it!" idea. I don't know why you even brought it up if you weren't actually arguing anything with it.
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