The Ukraine scandal timeline Democrats... don’t want America to see

[Starlight]

We know for a fact Biden used money and political weight to get a prosecutor fired that was supposedly investigating a Ukrainian company his son worked for.

Actually Biden got rid of a prosecutor who wasn't investigating the company his son worked for, and replaced the prosecutor with someone who would investigated the company his son worked for. Biden harmed his son's interests, not helped him.

[Mountain Man]

I don't understand how this is better, the guy is analyzing a new york times article and claiming certain phrases really mean this or that happened. I'm not an expert but isn't this exactly what a conspiracy theory stereotype looks like?

Do you not trust Fiona Hill when said that Russia was definitely behind the election interference and this Ukraine conspiracy?

The fact is, the whole "Russian election interference" theory is based on scant evidence. To this day, no independent organization of any credibility has ever gotten a firsthand look at the Democrat National Committee servers that they claim were hacked by the Russians. That whole narrative was based on a redacted draft report written by CrowdStrike who was under the employ of the DNC, and even the Mueller report is full of hedges and vague language when trying to point the finger at Russia.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....ng_claims.html

[Mountain Man]

Like I said, where's there's smoke there's fire. The relentless insistence that no one investigate and conspiracy theorists for even questioning it is suspicious. Biden claiming Graham would "regret" doing it. Very strange thing for someone innocent to say, and even sounds like a veiled threat.

Yep... Biden is coming across as very angry and threatening that anybody would dare investigate him or his son.

"Lindsey is about to go down in a way that I think he’s going to regret his whole life."

Boy oh boy, just imagine the howls of protest from the left if Trump had said something like that.

"Trump is now essentially holding power over him that even the Ukrainians wouldn’t yield to. The Ukrainians would not yield to, quote, ‘investigate Biden’ — there’s nothing to investigate about Biden or his son."

So if there's nothing there, then why doesn't he welcome the opportunity to prove his innocence? Isn't that the argument Democrats have been using against Trump for the past three-years? Sauce for the goose, as they say.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elect...is-whole-life/

And by the way, the head of Burisma was recently indicted by Ukrainian investigators for money laundering, and Hunter Biden's name appears in the indictment.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ocratic-party/

[Mountain Man]

Actually Biden got rid of a prosecutor who wasn't investigating the company his son worked for, and replaced the prosecutor with someone who would investigated the company his son worked for. Biden harmed his son's interests, not helped him.

False. Documents show that the investigation against Burisma was active at the time Joe extorted the Ukrainian government into firing the prosecutor. And this was after Hunter and his colleagues had contacted the Obama administration asking them to get the prosecutor off their backs.

https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunte...ns-memos-show/

[firstfloor]

The fact is, the whole "Russian election interference" theory is based on scant evidence. To this day, no independent organization of any credibility has ever gotten a firsthand look at the Democrat National Committee servers that they claim were hacked by the Russians. That whole narrative was based on a redacted draft report written by CrowdStrike who was under the employ of the DNC, and even the Mueller report is full of hedges and vague language when trying to point the finger at Russia.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....ng_claims.html

Vlad thanks you for your efforts.

[Mountain Man]

Vlad thanks you for your efforts.

I assume you're passing on this message as a personal favor to your man-crush.

[firstfloor]

I assume you're passing on this message as a personal favor to your man-crush.

On behalf of the United States of America, I am offended by this thread and the efforts herein, against the National Security interests of the United Ststes.

[rogue06]

Like I said, where's there's smoke there's fire. The relentless insistence that no one investigate and conspiracy theorists for even questioning it is suspicious. Biden claiming Graham would "regret" doing it. Very strange thing for someone innocent to say, and even sounds like a veiled threat.

His getting upset at Obama when his people started investigating it (and stopped at Biden's insistence) oughta been the first red flag

[Cow Poke]

On behalf of the United States of America.....

You didn't file the appropriate paperwork.

[rogue06]

Well, apparently the senate disagrees with you. And not only is Graham no great fan of Trump, but he's also rather neutral (if not leaning more towards the establishment left side of the issue) when it comes to the red scare threat and the whole Ukraine situation, so I doubt the left will convince anyone that Graham is a Putin puppet or being influenced by your goofy Russian bot conspiracy. Guess we'll find out though.

The latest wrinkle is that the idea that Ukrainians were involved in trying to interfere with the 2016 election is nothing but Russian propaganda seems to ignore the fact that a while back the Ukrainian government itself outed one of their officials as being involved in meddling with the election.

[rogue06]

Vlad thanks you for your efforts.

Zelensky does seem like a fairly nice guy.

[Mountain Man]

The latest wrinkle is that the idea that Ukrainians were involved in trying to interfere with the 2016 election is nothing but Russian propaganda seems to ignore the fact that a while back the Ukrainian government itself outed one of their officials as being involved in meddling with the election.

And we know they were acting on Hillary's behalf to sabotage the Trump campaign.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

[oxmixmudd]

It cannot have escaped your knowledge that the story about Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election is Russian disinformation?

Cp doesnt believe no stinking career state department employees whose career focus was Putin and Russia, what would she know?

Or the US intelligence community- what would they know?

But no, the REAL truth can be found on the internet ... in a john soloman OP ed no less.

[Cow Poke]

Cp doesnt believe no stinking career state department employees whose career focus was Putin and Russia, what would she know?

Might I suggest you take another look at your signature, Jim? You're doing that thing again.

Besides, that's a dishonest representation of my beliefs -- you're better than this. Or, were at one time.

[firstfloor]

You will notice that Trump’s defense is all deflection. It is an admission that he is guilty as charged.