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  • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Especially when he's been lying everyday non-stop for the last 3 years ...
    If Trump ever said that, even about a serial liar like Schiff or Pelosi, you'd be purple-faced with rage, impotently shaking your fist as you snarled about Trump lying again.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
      No rogue. Not the same. Not even close to the same.
      You are correct in that previously it was the crackpots on the furthest edges of the fringe doing it but TDS has got what were supposedly credible journalists, news outlets and high level politicians indulging in it.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        You are correct in that previously it was the crackpots on the furthest edges of the fringe doing it but TDS has got what were supposedly credible journalists, news outlets and high level politicians indulging in it.
        No rogue. That simply isnt true. But at least you tacitly admit I'm right about Trump. But do you notice that instead of blaming Trump for the potential spread of the behavior, you are trying to blame it on a fictitious mental illness afflicting those that might be adopting more and more of Trump's behavior.

        The old adage is "bad company corrupts good morals"

        This well known concept is gets to the center of why responsible leaders guard their observable behaviour and strive towards higher ideals. And why so many will not tolerate who Trump is and what he does.

        The bottom line is you are defending not only the indefensible, but its effect on our entire public arena.

        You are defending the loss of an order of magnitude of what little was left of honor and nobility in our public life in the corrupt actions of one man.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          No rogue. That simply isnt true. But at least you tacitly admit I'm right about Trump. But do you notice that instead of blaming Trump for the potential spread of the behavior, you are trying to blame it on a fictitious mental illness afflicting those that might be adopting more and more of Trump's behavior.

          The old adage is "bad company corrupts good morals"

          This well known concept is gets to the center of why responsible leaders guard their observable behaviour and strive towards higher ideals. And why so many will not tolerate who Trump is and what he does.

          The bottom line is you are defending not only the indefensible, but its effect on our entire public arena.

          You are defending the loss of an order of magnitude of what little was left of honor and nobility in our public life in the corrupt actions of one man.
          Trump, like other politicians, lies. A lot. But if you heard him snoring you'd immediately swear on a stack of Bibles he was lying.

          TDS is a terrible thing.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            Trump, like other politicians, lies. A lot. But if you heard him snoring you'd immediately swear on a stack of Bibles he was lying.

            TDS is a terrible thing.
            Notice that you are just taking a cheap shot, but I am trying to deal with a real and serious issues that you would prefer did not exist.
            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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            • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              Notice that you are just taking a cheap shot, but I am trying to deal with a real and serious issues that you would prefer did not exist.
              Let me know when you stop making mountains out of molehills.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Let me know when you stop making mountains out of molehills.
                Another cheap shot. Another denial of reality. Trump's narcissistic personality and constant lying, not to mention his many engagements in corrupt activity, is not a molehill. And neither are the constant attempts by Trump supporters to trivialize that same corruption and lying.
                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                  Goes to credibility - and only stupid people accept the testimony of a liar.
                  Tea, that is the funniest, and most ironic thing, i've ever heard said by a Trumpster.

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                  • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                    No rogue. Not the same. Not even close to the same. There is no reasonable way for anyone to claim Trump's penchant for lying can be matched or excused by the behavior of any previous president in our lifetimes. A man who kills once out of fear or even anger is not the same as a serial killer with hundreds of bodies buried or cut up. And that is the sort of - for lack of a kinder word - inane comparison you are trying to make

                    Do you guys ever take a step back and ask 'why am I trying to minimize these things Trump does?' Most of you would not be caught dead making these arguments on behalf of any other person.
                    It's called being morally unreliable, which is not as bad a being evil itself, but it denotes a lack of good character.

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                    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      It's called being morally unreliable, which is not as bad a being evil itself, but it denotes a lack of good character.
                      Ox is so very blessed to have men of your caliber in his corner. Politics does, indeed, make strange bedfellows.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Ox is so very blessed to have men of your caliber in his corner. Politics does, indeed, make strange bedfellows.
                        Oh, bless your heart, CP.

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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Oh, bless your heart, CP.
                          God does every day, Jim - most recently by allowing me to perform the wedding of my granddaughter just last night.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            If Trump ever said that, even about a serial liar like Schiff or Pelosi, you'd be purple-faced with rage, impotently shaking your fist as you snarled about Trump lying again.
                            You have no idea what you're talking about. You may be driven primarily by partisan issues, but my issues with Trump are not partisan, they are moral and ideological.
                            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Tea, that is the funniest, and most ironic thing, i've ever heard said by a Trumpster.
                              Jim, you planning on using facts or just schoolboy taunts?
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                              • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                                Jim, you planning on using facts or just schoolboy taunts?
                                All of the facts have been laid out before you, Tea, but for some strange reason facts just never seem to get through to you. You guys have some sort of psychological armor that protects you from facts.

                                But you have to admit to the irony of your comment that, "Only stupid people accept the testimony of a liar." That's really rich coming from a Trumpster.
                                Last edited by JimL; 11-30-2019, 11:57 PM.

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