Open Skies Treaty

[firstfloor]

Another gift to Putin?

Reports suggest that US President Donald Trump has already signed a document giving the necessary six months' notice for withdrawal, though his administration still seems divided as to whether this treaty should be maintained. Former Defence Secretary James Mattis, while still serving in his post, declared that it was in the United States' "best interests" to remain in the treaty despite the alleged Russian violations.

Indeed the statistics are striking. The US has flown three times as many flights annually over Russia as the Russians have flown over the US. Between 2002 and 2016 there were 196 US flight plans logged versus 71 by Russia. In addition the US can request copies of the imagery from flights conducted by other signatories. Since 2002 there have been more than 500 such flights over Russia. During recent years, Russia has flown between four and nine missions each year over the US, while the US has flown between 14 and 16 flights over Russia.

One former diplomat says: 'Sometimes the only way to explain/predict Trump's foreign policy is to think "what would Putin want the US to do?"'

[Cow Poke]

Would it really be so difficult, my crisis management / problem resolution friend, to add the cite from which this wealth of information comes?

[firstfloor]

US-Russia surveillance flights treaty under threat https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50220948

And many other sources have this story.

[Cow Poke]

US-Russia surveillance flights treaty under threat https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50220948

And many other sources have this story.

Yeah, not finding anything that seems to justify this.

[firstfloor]

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_ca...eaty-final.pdf

[demi-conservative]

Help me out, firstfloor, I can't tell if this is your usual trolling or genuine dumbness.

[firstfloor]

Help me out, firstfloor, I can't tell if this is your usual trolling or genuine dumbness.

This is in the news. Very important for monitoring troop movements and the like, and stuff that satellites cannot do easily.

[firstfloor]

The North Sea near chez firstfloor.

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[Cow Poke]

This is in the news. Very important for monitoring troop movements and the like, and stuff that satellites cannot do easily.

I think you'd be quite surprised what satellites, combined with AI, could do quite easily. And drones.

[demi-conservative]

Very important for monitoring troop movements and the like, and stuff that satellites cannot do easily.

Ok, so it's dumb ignorance.

[firstfloor]

Ok, so it's dumb ignorance.

[I]

Ukraine being blinded by Trump, helps Russia.

[Mountain Man]

I think you'd be quite surprised what satellites, combined with AI, could do quite easily. And drones.

I remember reading years ago that military satellites could not only tell you there was a man sitting on a park bench reading a newspaper but could actually show you the newspaper's date. Perhaps an exaggeration, but it's generally the case that military technology is far more advanced than the general public is aware of.

[Mountain Man]

Looks like you're quoting opinion pieces. How about a source that focuses on just the facts?

[One Bad Pig]

I remember reading years ago that military satellites could not only tell you there was a man sitting on a park bench reading a newspaper but could actually show you the newspaper's date. Perhaps an exaggeration, but it's generally the case that military technology is far more advanced than the general public is aware of.

The handicap of using only satellite coverage is that those are on known schedules.

[Cow Poke]

The handicap of using only satellite coverage is that those are on known schedules.

Hence, the drones.

(But I love it when MaGee sits there in NCIS headquarters and retasks a satellite* to watch somebody's car driving up I95, triggering every red light camera and mom&pop grocery store security camera)





*please don't tell me MaGee can't actually do that!